steelmanronald06 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Okay Ruby has Rails, and php has ??? Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Are you asking if there is a framework? Well there is [url=http://framework.zend.com]Zend Framework[/url]. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-96498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmanronald06 Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Yeah, if it does what rails does to ruby. Is it useful? Do you recommend using it? Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-96508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I don't know Ruby or Ruby on Rails, so I can't tell if it does the same.I just recently heard of it, so I haven't tested it much, but it seems pretty nice. All of its components are: [quote] * Zend * Zend_Cache * Zend_Config * Zend_Controller * Zend_Controller_RewriteRouter * Zend_Db * Zend_Feed * Zend_Filter * Zend_Filter_Input * Zend_Http_Client * Zend_Json * Zend_Log * Zend_Mail * Zend_Mime * Zend_Pdf * Zend_Search * Zend_Service_Amazon * Zend_Service_Flickr * Zend_Service_Yahoo * Zend_View * Zend_XmlRpc[/quote] Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-96513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Zend Framework isn't even done yet. There is only a preview available.You could take a look at the resources sticky. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-96514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmanronald06 Posted September 22, 2006 Author Share Posted September 22, 2006 Yeah, I seen the resources just now. Is there one of the 10 frameworks you would suggest? Is Zend the best? I know it has the best other products, so would Zend Framework be great also? Do you suggest using a framework or not? Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-96958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 [quote author=steelmanronald06 link=topic=109009.msg439641#msg439641 date=1158957981]Yeah, I seen the resources just now. Is there one of the 10 frameworks you would suggest? Is Zend the best? I know it has the best other products, so would Zend Framework be great also? Do you suggest using a framework or not?[/quote]Do recommend using a framework? Hell yeah. Do I recommend using someone elses framework? Not really.I don't like using other peoples code, except for taking it apart, figuring out how it works and implementing usefull ideas.Concequently, I can't really recommend any of those frameworks for 'normal' use. Although it's not finished I would recommend ZF for the purpose above. It's very much a case of personal preference I think, but if you want my preference: I would recommend taking ZF and at least study how it works. The gereral MVC part is pretty much done I believe. If you would need functionality that isn't there (yet), either do your own or make a rip off version of some other framework's module. :P Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-97139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I would prefer making my own framework. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-97167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonta Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 <a href="http://www.cakephp.org/">CakePHP</a> is rails port to php but i haven't tried it. Only read good stuff about it though. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-97399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremywesselman Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 I was going to suggest CakePHP also. It's a rapid development framework based on the concept of Ruby on Rails. There is also PHP on Trax, but I haven't really messed around with it. There are a lot of other frameworks around too. Personally, I use a framework that consists of smarty, pear and a good directory structure.Jeremy Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-97464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenk Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Making your own will always prevail over using a pre-made, but for the sake of suggestions: [url=http://www.symfony-project.com/]Symfony[/url] or [url=http://www.xisc.com/]PRADO[/url]I dislike cake because it tries [i]too[/i] hard to do stuff for you. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-97676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmanronald06 Posted September 24, 2006 Author Share Posted September 24, 2006 *Feels stupid* Everyone says make your own framework. All I know about a framework is that it is a simpler method of performing a task. That is really all I know. Anyone care to shed light on what exactly a framework is. I checked the resource page, but didn't really find a dumbass version of it :) Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-97719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 [quote author=steelmanronald06 link=topic=109009.msg440442#msg440442 date=1159126103]*Feels stupid* Everyone says make your own framework. All I know about a framework is that it is a simpler method of performing a task. That is really all I know. Anyone care to shed light on what exactly a framework is. I checked the resource page, but didn't really find a dumbass version of it :)[/quote]answering from a more inexperienced point of view: a framework is pretty much a set of functions/classes that can be applied to any situation. call it a 'project skeleton' if you wish. different frameworks are geared towards different things - so some maybe more geared towards forums, some towards CMS's, some towards more general development, etc. some people may disagree with my description, but it works for me so thats fine :) Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/21611-framework/#findComment-97723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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