freelance84 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Has anyone ever experienced iWeb? I have a guy (who made a site in iWeb) with a small bug on his site... but when i opened the page up and viewed the source... woo WTF! The page has a contact form but i cant even find the textarea! This is the site: http://www.alphacreativedesign.com/alphacreative/contact_form.html It even appears as if the source changes based on browser chrome > FF Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/252131-any-had-the-misfortune-of-debugging-iweb-html/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 That's not completely horrible, really. Want to have nightmares? Listen to this: When I was first starting out (sometime around 04-05), my first gig was to 'fix' a local nonprofit's site. It was originally built by an older gentleman who used Microsoft Frontpage in point-and-click mode. Pure HTML, no CSS, and, under the hood, it was a mess of nested tables. Even better, the guy wasn't smart enough to save one of these monstrous pages as a general template for the rest, so every page had common elements of a different size. So, the menu on one page wouldn't have the same width as on another. The same goes for the header, footer (when it was there...), etc. It was obvious that he tried (and failed) to simply eyeball it all. On top of all that, the site's colors were pale yellow, storm gray, and a bit of lavender thrown in from time to time. I simply rebuilt it from the ground up, as it wasn't worth the effort to try to salvage it. File sizes were, on average, about a third of what they were originally. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/252131-any-had-the-misfortune-of-debugging-iweb-html/#findComment-1292649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelance84 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Ha, blummin eck! Ok, you win ha! That's sounds fun! I can't seem to see how this damn textarea is appearing from the source though! It's just plain weird! _____________________________________________ Running firebug on it shows there is not AJAX in play. i got the access codes and the form seems to be coming from a contact_form.php file...? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/252131-any-had-the-misfortune-of-debugging-iweb-html/#findComment-1292655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Look at the JavaScript.... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/252131-any-had-the-misfortune-of-debugging-iweb-html/#findComment-1292656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 That's not completely horrible, really. Want to have nightmares? Listen to this: When I was first starting out (sometime around 04-05), my first gig was to 'fix' a local nonprofit's site. It was originally built by an older gentleman who used Microsoft Frontpage in point-and-click mode. Pure HTML, no CSS, and, under the hood, it was a mess of nested tables. Even better, the guy wasn't smart enough to save one of these monstrous pages as a general template for the rest, so every page had common elements of a different size. So, the menu on one page wouldn't have the same width as on another. The same goes for the header, footer (when it was there...), etc. It was obvious that he tried (and failed) to simply eyeball it all. On top of all that, the site's colors were pale yellow, storm gray, and a bit of lavender thrown in from time to time. I simply rebuilt it from the ground up, as it wasn't worth the effort to try to salvage it. File sizes were, on average, about a third of what they were originally. Ahh reminds me of my first site, built with FrontPage at about 14 for my "DoD" clan Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/252131-any-had-the-misfortune-of-debugging-iweb-html/#findComment-1292658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZulfadlyAshBurn Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 try finding this in the code <textarea id="input_4" class="form-textarea" name="q4_message" cols="40" rows="6"></textarea> EDIT: The contact form is from another page and they used an iframe at the contact_form.html. The file you should be finding is at: /alphacreative//contact_form_files/widget0_markup.html Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/252131-any-had-the-misfortune-of-debugging-iweb-html/#findComment-1292698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelance84 Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Thanks ZulfadlyAshBurn. I hate iWeb. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/252131-any-had-the-misfortune-of-debugging-iweb-html/#findComment-1292711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZulfadlyAshBurn Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 HAHA. No Problem. Glad I was able to help you out xD Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/252131-any-had-the-misfortune-of-debugging-iweb-html/#findComment-1292973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelance84 Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Hmm, I don't think it helps that iWeb doesn't clean up after its self. Apple promotes in their OS a stupid man approach in that the user doesn't have to think what they are doing, fair enough if you like that kind of thing (like a woman simply knowing the car shaped object on the drive goes forwards and turns ), but then at least design a program that can clean up after the stupid man. There were literally 1000's of files on his server within the iWeb... and most were redundant! (by the way i am not saying here that the stupid person is my friend, just mac users in general ) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/252131-any-had-the-misfortune-of-debugging-iweb-html/#findComment-1292977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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