OM2 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I've heard people say this quite often: I know 1or 2 coding languages and therefore I know them all - they're all just different langauges with different syntax The people who have said this have been fairly hardcore programmers They're saying "I can pick up a new language in zero time" How true is this? Normally... it's been ASP programmers talking about PHP or vice versa Just something that popped into my head Would be interested to hear what others say OM Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/254857-if-you-know-one-or-2-languages-then-you-know-them-all/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 It really depends on the person. For the most part, I'd agree with you... however sometimes learning a new language (or even just a different project) requires a different approach than what you're used to and can be more difficult to break your old habits than if you were starting fresh. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/254857-if-you-know-one-or-2-languages-then-you-know-them-all/#findComment-1306777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickOldCar Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I agree with kingphillip. Although many languages have similar functionality, some also have unique built in functions another may not have. Knowing a functions name along with proper usage is key. It's more about familiarity with what a language does or does not have, and using the proper formats as well. For any coding language, it still takes time to learn it properly, or they are just "winging" it with the basics. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/254857-if-you-know-one-or-2-languages-then-you-know-them-all/#findComment-1306799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootstah Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Programming is a process that needs to be learned which is separate from the language. It is a unique way of thinking and problem solving. Once you master this, programming in any language is mostly about learning the API and unique quirks/methodology. This doesn't mean that if you master one language that you are Yoda of programming. Every language is a little bit different and still requires sufficient time to learn and become familiar with. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/254857-if-you-know-one-or-2-languages-then-you-know-them-all/#findComment-1306887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDan Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 There's actually multiple KINDS of programming. There's straight procedural programming, there's OOP, and then there's functional languages like python and lisp which allow for language-level recursion and self modification. So I think the basic premise is: If you can think like a programmer in 2 or 3 of the above paradigms, then the language itself doesn't matter. You might make some "noob" mistakes, but you'll still have the logic correct. I knew a C programmer who was asked to do some emergency maintenance to a PHP app. His code was gorgeous...except he wrote his own sorting algorithm instead of using sort(). That's the kind of "gotcha" you'll run into with a new language. Certain languages have built-in features to make common difficult tasks much easier. You'll also have to learn specific syntax and the data types. Perl has two kinds of arrays (ok, more, but two main ones). Python's handling of function arguments, especially inside classes, is mind boggling to a new user. PHP has more than 40,000 built in functions, none of them namespaced, organized, or even named with a consistent style. However, all of these languages have IF, FOR, FOREACH, WHILE, functions, classes, and lists. That's all you need to be a programmer. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/254857-if-you-know-one-or-2-languages-then-you-know-them-all/#findComment-1306913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderwell Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 having coded in asp for many years, i found the transistion to php quite simple. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/254857-if-you-know-one-or-2-languages-then-you-know-them-all/#findComment-1307025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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