Adam Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Has anybody seen the new built-in DOM inspector that comes with FF10? Its got a fancy overlay, but functionally it's lacking a bit! When inspecting an element you can't edit text nodes at all, only existing attribute values. You can add and switch on/off the CSS rules as well, but that's about it. There's no new additional tools for tracking HTTP requests, browser resources, etc. Seems like they spent all their time on the GUI and left you still reliant on plug-ins to do everything Chrome does by default. I think Firefox will be playing catch-up with Chrome for the rest of it's days to be honest, they haven't had an original idea (that I know of anyway) in years! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/256254-new-firefox-10-features/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyKay47 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Has anybody seen the new built-in DOM inspector that comes with FF10? Its got a fancy overlay, but functionally it's lacking a bit! When inspecting an element you can't edit text nodes at all, only existing attribute values. You can add and switch on/off the CSS rules as well, but that's about it. There's no new additional tools for tracking HTTP requests, browser resources, etc. Seems like they spent all their time on the GUI and left you still reliant on plug-ins to do everything Chrome does by default. I think Firefox will be playing catch-up with Chrome for the rest of it's days to be honest, they haven't had an original idea (that I know of anyway) in years! I have not yet taken a look at it, and from your report, I probably won't. I am surprised (kind of) that mozilla hasn't gotten their crap together after the launch of chrome. I actually just installed it as I was writing this post, and I must say I am surprised, this is almost an exact replica of chromes dev tools (GUI is nicer) with the exception of as you said, lacks a good bit of functionality. The GUI is nice, but I personally (mostly everyone I assume) would never sacrifice functionality for a nice interface. Firefox is still a browser that cannot compare to chrome. I think Firefox will be playing catch-up with Chrome for the rest of it's days to be honest, they haven't had an original idea (that I know of anyway) in years! I agree completely, firefox will always be catching up to chrome because they lack imagination, it seems to me that they wait for chrome to come out with some new features, then simply copy them in the next release (however yet again failing to keep up with chrome). IE will of course be the ladder of browsers most likely forever. After reviewing this, firefox remains to be a browser that I have no desire to use. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/256254-new-firefox-10-features/#findComment-1313678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Yeah, I'm inclined to agree that FF will be a step or two behind Chrome in features (and to some degree, UI.) I still use it for work because of a few crucial plugins, but TBH, if I really wanted to I could make them into Chrome plugins and get rid of FF altogether. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/256254-new-firefox-10-features/#findComment-1313684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootstah Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I don't see the point of that. They should just bundle Firebug with Firefox. It's 100x better than both this thing and Chrome dev tools. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/256254-new-firefox-10-features/#findComment-1313704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDan Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I don't see the point of that. They should just bundle Firebug with Firefox. It's 100x better than both this thing and Chrome dev tools. I've found a number of bugs in firebug, ironically. Mostly related to tracking the response from ajax calls. I still really like it, but chrome developer tools is roughly the same for the work I need to do. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/256254-new-firefox-10-features/#findComment-1313728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 I don't see the point of that. They should just bundle Firebug with Firefox. It's 100x better than both this thing and Chrome dev tools. I used to think the same, but over the last couple of months I've got used to Chrome's tools and there's really not much between them, except that Chrome's feel a little more stable as Dan was getting at. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/256254-new-firefox-10-features/#findComment-1313729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootstah Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Maybe I'm just too used to Firebug to give it up. There's a ton of plugins available for it to extend it further as well. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/256254-new-firefox-10-features/#findComment-1313734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicken Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I just checked it out. I do like the look and feel, but it is lacking a lot of functionality that makes things like firebug of chrome dev tools useful. Perhaps it will get better after another version or two. I never really did like the way firebug worked, I always found it to be clunkly and a pain. Chrome's dev tools I found to be pretty user friendly. I've done almost all my dev work in chrome over the last two years. I will do some functionality checks in firefox and IE after the pages are mostly ready to go. For what I do (fairly basic stuff) the browsers all seem to work the same these days and I have had few issues. It's nice that things seem to be getting better with that respect. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/256254-new-firefox-10-features/#findComment-1314313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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