tomfmason Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 A friend of mine on the irc channel pointed this out to me earlier.. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=enI guess that it supposed to be like FF's error/javascript console. It should allow us to view DOM selections and much more.. This should make debugging IE's crap a little easier.. Tom Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/33624-microshaft-developer-toolbar/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeWill Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Let me sum up the original post:*whine whine bitch bitch complain complain*Meh, I'm not a fan of Microsoft, but I'm tired of the anti-Microsoft craze. Personally I find Apple [i]worse[/i] in the bull that gets handed out.I still use Firefox though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/33624-microshaft-developer-toolbar/#findComment-158108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Can't say I noticed any complaints in Toms post... As far as I see it, being "anti-Microsoft" is not a craze either, people have been against their products and business model/work ethics from the beginning, although I personally like them and what they have done for the industry - But that is not for this topic, we are discussing a plug-in for MSIE.The general consensus is that MSIE is a bitch to develop for, most likely due to it's lack of effort in the standards compliancy area, so this tool does help out somewhat - Although I've had a similar one installed for a while now, thanks for posting it up. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/33624-microshaft-developer-toolbar/#findComment-158142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfmason Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 [quote author=StrangeWill link=topic=121812.msg502100#msg502100 date=1168509067]*whine whine bitch bitch complain complain*[/quote]Well just look at what Microsoft is doing. They have completely changed several things this year. Many of our css hacks for IE6 are no good with IE7. Also, the new formats for the office documents. I personally like office 2007 but the formats have completely change in several of those apps and they are not really back-wards compatible. Tom Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/33624-microshaft-developer-toolbar/#findComment-158275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 [quote author=tomfmason link=topic=121812.msg502273#msg502273 date=1168527186]I personally like office 2007 but the formats have completely change in several of those apps and they are not really back-wards compatible.[/quote]In fact I guess it would be the "old" versions that are not forwards compatible as Office 2007 has full support for the old formats.And for the topic: It seems like it could be pretty useful. Can't figure out how to get the javascript debugging feature to work though. I like the new way you are able to view the source with the extension. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/33624-microshaft-developer-toolbar/#findComment-158477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 >Can't figure out how to get the javascript debugging feature to work thoughSeems I'm not the only one! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/33624-microshaft-developer-toolbar/#findComment-158479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neylitalo Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 [quote author=Daniel0 link=topic=121812.msg502477#msg502477 date=1168543307][quote author=tomfmason link=topic=121812.msg502273#msg502273 date=1168527186]I personally like office 2007 but the formats have completely change in several of those apps and they are not really back-wards compatible.[/quote]In fact I guess it would be the "old" versions that are not forwards compatible as Office 2007 has full support for the old formats.[/quote]Microsoft's way of expanding their monopoly - they want to make sure that everybody buys their new software. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/33624-microshaft-developer-toolbar/#findComment-158538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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