Jessica Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 This gives a syntax error, but shows what I'm trying to do. If I don't pass it a username and password, I want to use the class values. function login($username=$this->username, $password=$this->password){ //mah code! } My solution: function login($username=NULL, $password=NULL){ if($username == NULL){ $username = $this->username; } if($password == NULL){ $password = $this->password; } //mah code! } Anyone know of a better way to do this? Or is the the only way? Obviously it works, I just hate the null checks. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 That's similar to how I always do it.... I usually do something like: class MyClass { public $this->user; public $this->pass; public function __construct($user = false, $pass = false) { if($user !== false) $this->user = $user; if($pass !== false) $this->pass = $user; } } It's the exact same idea, except I'm setting the class variables to the function arguements instead of the other way around.... That way it sets them for hte entire class, and it allows you to access the variables through the class instead of in just that function ;p. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-349421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I'm quite sure there is no other way than the alternative you provided yourself. That's similar to how I always do it.... I usually do something like: class MyClass { public $this->user; public $this->pass; public function __construct($user = false, $pass = false) { if($user !== false) $this->user = $user; if($pass !== false) $this->pass = $user; } } It's the exact same idea, except I'm setting the class variables to the function arguements instead of the other way around.... That way it sets them for hte entire class, and it allows you to access the variables through the class instead of in just that function ;p. That's exactly the same as she said herself except you used false instead of null. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-349520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 Obviously if I don't want to access them in other functions, I wouldn't want to set them as the class variables. I don't want to override the existing class variables. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-349613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I'm quite sure there is no other way than the alternative you provided yourself. That's similar to how I always do it.... I usually do something like: class MyClass { public $this->user; public $this->pass; public function __construct($user = false, $pass = false) { if($user !== false) $this->user = $user; if($pass !== false) $this->pass = $user; } } It's the exact same idea, except I'm setting the class variables to the function arguements instead of the other way around.... That way it sets them for hte entire class, and it allows you to access the variables through the class instead of in just that function ;p. That's exactly the same as she said herself except you used false instead of null. Actually that's not the same. That would set the class vars to the args if the args weren't null where as her example would set the args to the class vars if the args were null. Anyway, I wasn't sure what you were wanting to do.... I figured you wanted to overwrite the class vars since I don't know why you would want those vars in just one method, but what ever works ;p. I'm pretty sure if you wanted what you said, then your way would be the only one. Well, if you wanted to automate it more you could do something a bit easier to type out, but it could get kind of blehhh. <?php class SomeClass { public $defaults = array( 'user' => 'Corbin', 'password' => 'password', 'someotherthing' => 'foo', ); public function __construct($args = array()) { $args = array_merge($this->defaults, $args); print_r($args); } } $sc = new SomeClass(array('user' => 'Hi')); /* It would look something like: Array ( [user] => Hi [password] => password [someotherthing] => foo ) */ ?> Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-349620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadimp Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Yeah, the null-checks are the best, easiest way I know. Usually, default arguments are only those that are in a constant/global scope. function login($user="",$pass="") { if (!$user) $user=$this->user; if (!$pass) $pass=$this->pass; } I usually reserve 'null' for empty objects, arrays, or references. That's just a habit of mine. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-349703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenk Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 class Foo private $bar public function __construct ($bar = 'foo') { $this->bar = $bar; //proceed to use $this->bar. } } Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-350374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 Again, not what I was asking, but thanks for trying. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-350404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenk Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I can see what you are attempting, but do you actually update the class variables at any point, or only in the definition? This is aching of a potential design flaw; depending on the above. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emehrkay Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 class test{ private $_user = 'user'; private $_pass = 'pass'; public function __construct($user, $pass){ $con_user = ($user == '') ? $this->_user : $user; $con_pass = ($pass == '') ? $this->_pass : $pass; } } Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 It's not a constructor, it's a function in the class. If I have already created an instance of it, it will have values for those class variables, as set in the constructor. If I want to call the function and use those values, I don't want to pass it anything. If I want to pass it values, they might not need to overwrite the existing class values. So it's the same as wanting to use any other function that has default values. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenk Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 It's not a constructor, it's a function in the class. If I have already created an instance of it, it will have values for those class variables, as set in the constructor. If I want to call the function and use those values, I don't want to pass it anything. If I want to pass it values, they might not need to overwrite the existing class values. So it's the same as wanting to use any other function that has default values. That's fine, it's clarified what I was asking above. The design flaw I was hinting at would have been if you were using the object properties as default values, but never modifying them, just to maintain a "pretty" code layout. In that case, either what you have will be fine, but to be utterly semantic about it explicitly check for a null value: public function something ($var = null) { if (is_null($var)) $var = $this->foo; //do something with $var } P.S. completely off topic.. but I have to ask, what is that above your (someone elses?) shoulder in your avatar? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 It's my cat when he was a kitten. Everyone always asks that, I guess I'm just used to seeing teeny pixel as kitten Here is a better pic and some of him, his brother, and my rats too: http://jesirose.com/about/my-pets/ Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emehrkay Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Your question has little to do with oop and more to do with setting a variable's value. In my example you will find your answer. i set the class properties to whatever, somehting that you said you've done. if you look at the method in my example , the constructor, you will see that it sets the function's local variables, $con_, based on what is being passed in. the meat in my example is the usage of the ternary operator public function method($user = '', $pass = ''){ $con_user = ($user == '') ? $this->_user : $user; $con_pass = ($pass == '') ? $this->_pass : $pass; //do stuff with the local $con_ variables } Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 It has everything to do with OOP, because I wanted to know if it was possible to use $this->value in the arguments of a method in that class. Wouldn't it make sense to be able to use it there? You're in the class at that point. Also, the ternary operator ought to be outlawed. Yes, it's shorter, but it gives no meaning to the code. if else is clear. ?: is not. And it's still pretty much the same as what I was doing, only using '' instead of NULL. I just wanted to know if there was a way to access the $this->value in the arguments, but unfortunately there is not. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emehrkay Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Yeah, using a variable as a default value for a function/method's property doesnt work. You dont even need to run this example to see that it wont work. <?php $x = 4; function test($var = $x){ echo $var; } test(); ?> The ternary operator is one of the best things available in programming I also love JavaScript's or for setting variables var x = y || z; //if y is false, x is set to z Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 if y is true, what is x? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emehrkay Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 if y is true, what is x? y Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 So it's just a way to set a boolean? I mean, I know JS doesn't have strong typing but what is the point in a statement that allows you to set a variable to false or a value? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emehrkay Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 think about all of the browser inconsistencies. in ie you have a way to do something and in ff and the other browsers there is typically a standard way. var ajaxTransport = new XMLHttpRequest() || new ActiveXObject('Microsoft.XMLHTTP'); it also works with functionality, this is an example from the mootools library. it says if there is a foreach method in the browser's prototype, use it. if not use this function when foreach is called against an array Array.prototype.forEach = Array.prototype.forEach || function(fn, bind){ for (var i = 0; i < this.length; i++) fn.call(bind, this[i], i, this); }; javascript is easily becoming my favorite language. it's so mysterious Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReDucTor Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 <?php class user { function myfunc($name = NULL, $pass = NULL) { switch(func_num_args()) { case 0: $name = $this->name; case 1: $pass = $this->pass; } } } ?> Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenk Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 think about all of the browser inconsistencies. in ie you have a way to do something and in ff and the other browsers there is typically a standard way. var ajaxTransport = new XMLHttpRequest() || new ActiveXObject('Microsoft.XMLHTTP'); it also works with functionality, this is an example from the mootools library. it says if there is a foreach method in the browser's prototype, use it. if not use this function when foreach is called against an array Array.prototype.forEach = Array.prototype.forEach || function(fn, bind){ for (var i = 0; i < this.length; i++) fn.call(bind, this[i], i, this); }; javascript is easily becoming my favorite language. it's so mysterious Time to play pedant again. That will throw exceptions; thus ensuring your code is actually broken; and only works for boolean instances, leaving you open to false passes. The Ternary operator is simply a shortcut "if (expression) {value if true} else {value if false}".. "expression ? value if true : value if false". Shorter? Yes. Readable? Debatable. Your other example is not unique to JavaScript, and JavaScript is just about the ugliest POS language ever to exist. Of course this is opinions, and no one can prove otherwise to the other so no point arguing over it, but - Have you never wondered why you must implement something as nasty as var xml = new XMLHttpRequest() || new ActiveXObject('Microsoft.XMLHTTP'); ? Answer: Because JavaScript is the least consistent language across browsers. Even CSS is more consistent than JS. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-351604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emehrkay Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Jenk, what will throw exceptions? The more that i learn about JS, the more i love the prototypical approach. However, I do hate everything about actionscript, crazy right? Must be because it is wrapped up in a flash container. I think that the or expression to set a default value is a great time saver. Ternarys are just as great for setting a default value. Its just a style thing like you said. Javascript is not the least consistent language though. You have the standards way, and then you have the microsoft way. Id say CSS has more loopholes you have to code for each browser than JS does. Listen to Dougless Crockford - the guy behind Yahoo's js, he explains JS' history and how it got to where we are at today. Sure every browser tries to improve the core functionality, that keeps innovation high and pushed into the mainstream, shit if it wasnt for m$ we wouldnt have ajax as it is today, but the battle is basically between IE and everyone else. http://javascript.crockford.com http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=111593 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/69523-solved-how-to-make-default-argument-a-class-variable/#findComment-352024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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