php111 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 hi, I'm new here and i like this site. Anyway, how do i program in HTML, CSS, PHP, MYSQL, C, C+, C++, whatever i would need to know and what can i use it in when i'm done learning? Thanks. Bye. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 That's [i]kind[/i] of a broad question... get a book. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-27681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
php111 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Share Posted April 17, 2006 Hi, What would be the best book that isn't high price? It depends i might pick one up and i understand i would need to start small. Right? Is there an HTML bible or for dummines at Barnes and Noble? The website might be different from the store. Sometimes online that might have books but it store they might not. What can i do with programming? What would be the best language to learn first? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-27694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildteen88 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 What are you planning to do? Make a website or a computer program.If its a website then to create a website you will need to know the following:[list][*]HTML[*]CSS[*]PHP and MySQL (if you want a dynamic site)[/list]If you want to make a computer program then the C lanagues will be what you want to learn.You can learn the basics of these lnaguges over at [a href=\"http://www.w3schools.com\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.w3schools.com[/a] Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-27702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 here's a list of books recommended in a previous thread:[a href=\"http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58799\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58799[/a]i personally recommend only a handful of sources:- Book - 'PHP and MySQL Web Development' by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson- Book - 'DHTML and CSS' - Jason Cranford Teague- [a href=\"http://www.php.net\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.php.net[/a] - the manual- phpfreaks / phpfreaks forums- Googlethese five sources have taken me from a complete noob to fairly competent in just over a year. It takes alot of time and patience but it's more than possible.CheersMark Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-27708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
php111 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Share Posted April 17, 2006 [!--quoteo(post=365539:date=Apr 17 2006, 11:05 AM:name=wildteen88)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(wildteen88 @ Apr 17 2006, 11:05 AM) [snapback]365539[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]What are you planning to do? Make a website or a computer program.If its a website then to create a website you will need to know the following:[list][*]HTML[*]CSS[*]PHP and MySQL (if you want a dynamic site)[/list]If you want to make a computer program then the C lanagues will be what you want to learn.You can learn the basics of these lnaguges over at [a href=\"http://www.w3schools.com\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.w3schools.com[/a][/quote]I really wanted to make computer programs and OS's. How long does it take to learn C? Is C+ still around? What is C++ used for? What do i need to learn before C? Would i ever need C+, C++, Assembly and everything else? Is there basic tutorials as beginners to advanced or do i need to buy books? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-27710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 [!--quoteo(post=365547:date=Apr 17 2006, 04:18 PM:name=php111)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(php111 @ Apr 17 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]365547[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]I really wanted to make computer programs and OS's. How long does it take to learn C? Is C+ still around? What is C++ used for? What do i need to learn before C? Would i ever need C+, C++, Assembly and everything else? Is there basic tutorials as beginners to advanced or do i need to buy books?[/quote]i'd say PHPfreaks is an odd place to come if you wanna learn C/C++, but:1, [b]How long does it take to learn C[/b] - depends if you have any prior knowledge of programming. the most difficult thing for people to grasp it seems is the process that a program goes through to get things done. ontop of that, it's about understanding what you want to do and learning the functions to do it. C++ was taught to me to a pretty good level in a 2 year, 2 hours a week college course.2, [b]Is C+ still around? [/b] if it's the same as C++, then yes.3, [b]What is C++ used for?[/b] programs. both games and applications. Doom/Quake etc are written in C++ as are many web servers/packages/browsers. (isn't PHP written in C++?)4, [b]What do i need to learn before C?[/b] patience.5, [b]Would i ever need C+, C++, Assembly and everything else? [/b] you can safely knock up entire apps with C++ alone. Most C++ packages i've used actually support inline Assembly (allowing you to stick assembly language right into the code) but this is fairly unnecessary in the first instance. only when it comes to having a severe need for speed is assembly necessary, as C++ is a fairly low level language itself.6, [b]Is there basic tutorials as beginners to advanced[/b]Google is your friend [b]or do i need to buy books?[/b] reading is good too. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-27716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
php111 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Share Posted April 17, 2006 [!--quoteo(post=365553:date=Apr 17 2006, 11:30 AM:name=redbullmarky)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(redbullmarky @ Apr 17 2006, 11:30 AM) [snapback]365553[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]i'd say PHPfreaks is an odd place to come if you wanna learn C/C++, but:1, [b]How long does it take to learn C[/b] - depends if you have any prior knowledge of programming. the most difficult thing for people to grasp it seems is the process that a program goes through to get things done. ontop of that, it's about understanding what you want to do and learning the functions to do it. C++ was taught to me to a pretty good level in a 2 year, 2 hours a week college course.2, [b]Is C+ still around? [/b] if it's the same as C++, then yes.3, [b]What is C++ used for?[/b] programs. both games and applications. Doom/Quake etc are written in C++ as are many web servers/packages/browsers. (isn't PHP written in C++?)4, [b]What do i need to learn before C?[/b] patience.5, [b]Would i ever need C+, C++, Assembly and everything else? [/b] you can safely knock up entire apps with C++ alone. Most C++ packages i've used actually support inline Assembly (allowing you to stick assembly language right into the code) but this is fairly unnecessary in the first instance. only when it comes to having a severe need for speed is assembly necessary, as C++ is a fairly low level language itself.6, [b]Is there basic tutorials as beginners to advanced[/b]Google is your friend [b]or do i need to buy books?[/b] reading is good too.[/quote]Is there any C/C++ forums? Since this isn't the right place. I'm not any good with search engines to tell you the truth. What is the best book to buy from the bn store? Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-27718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 [!--quoteo(post=365555:date=Apr 17 2006, 04:37 PM:name=php111)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(php111 @ Apr 17 2006, 04:37 PM) [snapback]365555[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]Is there any C/C++ forums? Since this isn't the right place. I'm not any good with search engines to tell you the truth. What is the best book to buy from the bn store? Thanks for the info.[/quote]a quick google search gave this:[a href=\"http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html[/a]looks fairly useful. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-27725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 cboard.cprogramming.com/Excellent forums for C/C++I'm a member there as well (although I haven't posted in ages).www.vbforums.com is another great site, if you want something a little easier to start out with. I'm a member there too, but again, post rarely (only when I need help lately). Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-27735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcombs_31 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 how old are you? Honestly, what are you looking to accomplish? Don't plan on created an Operating System anytime soon. I learned to program in college. You need to learn the fundamentals of programming before thinking about a particular language. You reallly must first learn discrete mathematics to understand the principles behind programming. You need a good sense of logic and math. I started with C/C++ as a beginner in college. I did most of my work in Java, but it was all eductional, nothing very practical. I first learned SQL and database design using Oracle and relational design. I learned coldfusion as my first web scripting language and quickly decided I wanted to learn php. Since graduating I've only programmed with php/Mysql and never read a book. I like to sometimes just breakdown code that is already written and try to understand the process of what is happening. I refer to php.net a lot for functions and syntax.I don't think one book in particular is going to help you, just find a beginner book for any language. I happen to like java for learning. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/7542-how-to-program/#findComment-28174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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