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#1 php111

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Posted 16 April 2006 - 01:14 PM

hi, I'm new here and i like this site. Anyway, how do i program in HTML, CSS, PHP, MYSQL, C, C+, C++, whatever i would need to know and what can i use it in when i'm done learning? Thanks. Bye.

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 01:10 PM

That's kind of a broad question... get a book.

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 02:51 PM

Hi, What would be the best book that isn't high price? It depends i might pick one up and i understand i would need to start small. Right? Is there an HTML bible or for dummines at Barnes and Noble? The website might be different from the store. Sometimes online that might have books but it store they might not. What can i do with programming? What would be the best language to learn first?

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:05 PM

What are you planning to do? Make a website or a computer program.

If its a website then to create a website you will need to know the following:
  • HTML
  • CSS
  • PHP and MySQL (if you want a dynamic site)
If you want to make a computer program then the C lanagues will be what you want to learn.

You can learn the basics of these lnaguges over at [a href=\"http://www.w3schools.com\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.w3schools.com[/a]

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:15 PM

here's a list of books recommended in a previous thread:
[a href=\"http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58799\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58799[/a]

i personally recommend only a handful of sources:

- Book - 'PHP and MySQL Web Development' by Luke Welling and Laura Thomson
- Book - 'DHTML and CSS' - Jason Cranford Teague
- [a href=\"http://www.php.net\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.php.net[/a] - the manual
- phpfreaks / phpfreaks forums
- Google

these five sources have taken me from a complete noob to fairly competent in just over a year. It takes alot of time and patience but it's more than possible.

Cheers
Mark
"you have to keep pissing in the wind to learn how to keep your shoes dry..."

I say old chap, that is rather amusing!

#6 php111

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:18 PM

[!--quoteo(post=365539:date=Apr 17 2006, 11:05 AM:name=wildteen88)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(wildteen88 @ Apr 17 2006, 11:05 AM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
What are you planning to do? Make a website or a computer program.

If its a website then to create a website you will need to know the following:
  • HTML
  • CSS
  • PHP and MySQL (if you want a dynamic site)
If you want to make a computer program then the C lanagues will be what you want to learn.

You can learn the basics of these lnaguges over at [a href=\"http://www.w3schools.com\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.w3schools.com[/a]
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I really wanted to make computer programs and OS's. How long does it take to learn C? Is C+ still around? What is C++ used for? What do i need to learn before C? Would i ever need C+, C++, Assembly and everything else? Is there basic tutorials as beginners to advanced or do i need to buy books?


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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:30 PM

[!--quoteo(post=365547:date=Apr 17 2006, 04:18 PM:name=php111)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(php111 @ Apr 17 2006, 04:18 PM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
I really wanted to make computer programs and OS's. How long does it take to learn C? Is C+ still around? What is C++ used for? What do i need to learn before C? Would i ever need C+, C++, Assembly and everything else? Is there basic tutorials as beginners to advanced or do i need to buy books?
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i'd say PHPfreaks is an odd place to come if you wanna learn C/C++, but:

1, How long does it take to learn C - depends if you have any prior knowledge of programming. the most difficult thing for people to grasp it seems is the process that a program goes through to get things done. ontop of that, it's about understanding what you want to do and learning the functions to do it. C++ was taught to me to a pretty good level in a 2 year, 2 hours a week college course.

2, Is C+ still around? if it's the same as C++, then yes.

3, What is C++ used for? programs. both games and applications. Doom/Quake etc are written in C++ as are many web servers/packages/browsers. (isn't PHP written in C++?)

4, What do i need to learn before C? patience.

5, Would i ever need C+, C++, Assembly and everything else? you can safely knock up entire apps with C++ alone. Most C++ packages i've used actually support inline Assembly (allowing you to stick assembly language right into the code) but this is fairly unnecessary in the first instance. only when it comes to having a severe need for speed is assembly necessary, as C++ is a fairly low level language itself.

6, Is there basic tutorials as beginners to advancedGoogle is your friend or do i need to buy books? reading is good too.
"you have to keep pissing in the wind to learn how to keep your shoes dry..."

I say old chap, that is rather amusing!

#8 php111

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:37 PM

[!--quoteo(post=365553:date=Apr 17 2006, 11:30 AM:name=redbullmarky)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(redbullmarky @ Apr 17 2006, 11:30 AM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
i'd say PHPfreaks is an odd place to come if you wanna learn C/C++, but:

1, How long does it take to learn C - depends if you have any prior knowledge of programming. the most difficult thing for people to grasp it seems is the process that a program goes through to get things done. ontop of that, it's about understanding what you want to do and learning the functions to do it. C++ was taught to me to a pretty good level in a 2 year, 2 hours a week college course.

2, Is C+ still around? if it's the same as C++, then yes.

3, What is C++ used for? programs. both games and applications. Doom/Quake etc are written in C++ as are many web servers/packages/browsers. (isn't PHP written in C++?)

4, What do i need to learn before C? patience.

5, Would i ever need C+, C++, Assembly and everything else? you can safely knock up entire apps with C++ alone. Most C++ packages i've used actually support inline Assembly (allowing you to stick assembly language right into the code) but this is fairly unnecessary in the first instance. only when it comes to having a severe need for speed is assembly necessary, as C++ is a fairly low level language itself.

6, Is there basic tutorials as beginners to advancedGoogle is your friend or do i need to buy books? reading is good too.
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Is there any C/C++ forums? Since this isn't the right place. I'm not any good with search engines to tell you the truth. What is the best book to buy from the bn store? Thanks for the info.

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:43 PM

[!--quoteo(post=365555:date=Apr 17 2006, 04:37 PM:name=php111)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(php111 @ Apr 17 2006, 04:37 PM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
Is there any C/C++ forums? Since this isn't the right place. I'm not any good with search engines to tell you the truth. What is the best book to buy from the bn store? Thanks for the info.
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a quick google search gave this:
[a href=\"http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html[/a]
looks fairly useful.
"you have to keep pissing in the wind to learn how to keep your shoes dry..."

I say old chap, that is rather amusing!

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 04:02 PM

cboard.cprogramming.com/

Excellent forums for C/C++

I'm a member there as well (although I haven't posted in ages).

www.vbforums.com is another great site, if you want something a little easier to start out with. I'm a member there too, but again, post rarely (only when I need help lately).

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 02:22 PM

how old are you? Honestly, what are you looking to accomplish? Don't plan on created an Operating System anytime soon. I learned to program in college. You need to learn the fundamentals of programming before thinking about a particular language. You reallly must first learn discrete mathematics to understand the principles behind programming. You need a good sense of logic and math.

I started with C/C++ as a beginner in college. I did most of my work in Java, but it was all eductional, nothing very practical. I first learned SQL and database design using Oracle and relational design. I learned coldfusion as my first web scripting language and quickly decided I wanted to learn php. Since graduating I've only programmed with php/Mysql and never read a book. I like to sometimes just breakdown code that is already written and try to understand the process of what is happening. I refer to php.net a lot for functions and syntax.

I don't think one book in particular is going to help you, just find a beginner book for any language. I happen to like java for learning.





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