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#21 Jessica

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:40 AM

I don't think he has any ideas he wants to get off the ground. I think he just wants to talk. 
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:43 AM

What is there to discuss if you don't show anything? That's where the disconnect is.

And no one is denying that you have the right to try to find people (although, technically, it may fall under the freelancing section here), it's just that finding quality people is hard to do. In the vast majority of cases, one's view of their own abilities is radically skewed. People generally think they're incredibly skilled when they're not, or not skilled enough when they are.

That's why things like your brain-wiki and your questionaire aren't good tools for recruitment. They're, by definition, non-objective, and if you're looking to do real work, you'll need to be able to actually judge people on what they can do, not what they think they can do. Similarly, people should be able to get an idea of your own skill level. You don't even need to reference any of your project ideas. Take something completely unrelated and get feedback.

I dunno. It just seems like a completely ass-backwards way to do it if you're truly interested in getting your idea(s) off the ground. But, whatever.

With no sarcasm or snark, good luck in finding people.


Kevin,
I really appreciate your time for explaining these things to me even If I am an unknown person and I have very few posts in this forum.
So, taking for granted that everything you say is right, what do you suggest? It will take me months to create something completely new and post it in github or something. If you have something in mind please make a suggestion. I am looking into quality people indeed.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

I don't think he has any ideas he wants to get off the ground. I think he just wants to talk.


What made you think that ? And what's the point of starting a new thread with this subject? Makes no sense..

#24 Jessica

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:04 AM

What made you think that ? And what's the point of starting a new thread with this subject? Makes no sense..


I think that because you haven't articulated that you HAVE a project to work on, all you've said is you want to talk to people. You don't want to put in several months of work to attract people, you just want to talk to people now.
I wasn't saying it as an insult.
I also didn't start a new thread, I replied to Kevin. 

Honestly, YOU make no sense. 
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:19 AM

Kevin,
I really appreciate your time for explaining these things to me even If I am an unknown person and I have very few posts in this forum.
So, taking for granted that everything you say is right, what do you suggest? It will take me months to create something completely new and post it in github or something. If you have something in mind please make a suggestion. I am looking into quality people indeed.


Well, it doesn't have to be anything new. Anything you feel that showcases your talent would be enough. Are there any old/not finished projects that you could show?

Recruiting people online is difficult because there's no way for anyone to actually judge your character or ability without seeing some sort of proof. It's easier to do it in person because it's easier to just talk or show sketches on-the-fly, and dialogue and direct interaction means a lot.

Having seen what you sent me in the PM, I think you do quality work. I, myself, don't have the time to dive into a new project, but I think what I saw of yours is good.

Would you be willing to post your current employer's site as an example of the overall quality you provide? I followed the link in the footer of what you showed me, and seems similar enough in terms of look and feel for a general idea.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:51 AM

Well, it doesn't have to be anything new. Anything you feel that showcases your talent would be enough. Are there any old/not finished projects that you could show?

Recruiting people online is difficult because there's no way for anyone to actually judge your character or ability without seeing some sort of proof. It's easier to do it in person because it's easier to just talk or show sketches on-the-fly, and dialogue and direct interaction means a lot.

Having seen what you sent me in the PM, I think you do quality work. I, myself, don't have the time to dive into a new project, but I think what I saw of yours is good.

Would you be willing to post your current employer's site as an example of the overall quality you provide? I followed the link in the footer of what you showed me, and seems similar enough in terms of look and feel for a general idea.


The link in the footer you followed is not my employer's site, but a "virtual" business I have built that I use as a portfolio. I work in a great international company as an I.T. also and in parallel I create websites and graphics for others and for me.

I am very busy also to dive into a new project. I want to build this community slowly, in my free time along with other people that would like to share the same ideas. I have much to offer but I want to be as much sure as I can for the people.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

I think that because you haven't articulated that you HAVE a project to work on, all you've said is you want to talk to people. You don't want to put in several months of work to attract people, you just want to talk to people now.
I wasn't saying it as an insult.
I also didn't start a new thread, I replied to Kevin.

Honestly, YOU make no sense.


How do you meet unknown people that you would like to cooperate to something ? I suppose by talking. Can't see what is wrong with talking.
I have many projects that I work on but I didn't mention something about my projects or "recruiting people to work for me". I mentioned a private community that everyone would offer his/her knowledge to the other. So the main subject here is quality knowledge exchange.
And you are right, I want to talk to people now to have a chance to form a team.

I didn't mean to offend you, so there is no reason to be sarcastic.

#28 Jessica

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:06 PM

Once again: It wasn't an insult, I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, and I'm not being sarcastic. Stop reading into my text and just read it. 
My goal in replying to posts is to help you become a better programmer, including learning how to debug your own code and research problems. For that reason, rather than posting the solution, I reply with tips and hints on how to find the solution yourself. See below for useful links when you get stuck.

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#29 hyp3rkyd

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

Once again: It wasn't an insult, I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, and I'm not being sarcastic. Stop reading into my text and just read it.


If you say it to help, well thanks. It's good to hear your opinion and Kevin's too. It's helping me to see what's wrong with my request here.
No offence here.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:27 PM

I am offended. 
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#31 Jessica

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:32 PM

No, premiso, you are offensive. *pat pat*
My goal in replying to posts is to help you become a better programmer, including learning how to debug your own code and research problems. For that reason, rather than posting the solution, I reply with tips and hints on how to find the solution yourself. See below for useful links when you get stuck.

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Debugging Your Code: Debugging your SQL | What does a php function do? | What does a term mean? | Don't see any errors?
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#32 premiso

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:35 PM

you are offensive.


That is what I said wasn't it? 
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#33 hyp3rkyd

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

I do not see any interest so I suppose I must take seriously what Jessica and Kevin said. So I will come up with something handy.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:08 PM

If anyone is interested, pm me and I will show you my work.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 04:07 PM

Some people have been gathered and a website was build to let anyone show his interest: http://mystharbor.com

 

We have gone ..further :)


Edited by hyp3rkyd, 28 August 2013 - 04:08 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2013 - 08:27 AM

Does your club have secret decoder rings?

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 01:00 AM

Does your club have secret decoder rings?

 

not yet, but sounds like a nice idea. Most of the hackerspaces I've heard of, have rfid systems for unlocking the doors, so I suppose it's just the beginning... rfid secret decoder rings...






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