Masna Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Hey everyone. I posted earlier and I suppose I was coming off as a marketer. That's not what I meant to do at all. What I'd love from the community are suggestions for my iPhone application called PHP Ref (it's in the App Store now). You don't have to purchase it to make suggestions, simply read the description and you'll know what it does. Again, I'm merely looking for suggestions. Basically, it's an offline PHP functions reference manual for your iPhone. So, I ask, what kind of functionality would please you in an application as such? Thanks! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
iversonm Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 i would prefer if it included everything from the php manual Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-665884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masna Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 i would prefer if it included everything from the php manual Alright thanks for the suggestion. I was considering incorporating that in future updates. It's just hard because including the ENTIRE manual takes up a lot of space but otherwise I have to write tons of parsing scripts to parse all the information in the manual. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-665888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 First up, I don't have (or want) an iPhone. But in what situation would you require the use of a stripped down version of the PHP manual on your phone? From my perspective, you surely must be developing a script at the time, on your computer, in a world of 'always-on' internet connctivity - And for those that don't have constant connectivity, they surely have an offline version of the manual on their computer and possibly built into their IDE. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-665925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masna Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 First up, I don't have (or want) an iPhone. But in what situation would you require the use of a stripped down version of the PHP manual on your phone? From my perspective, you surely must be developing a script at the time, on your computer, in a world of 'always-on' internet connctivity - And for those that don't have constant connectivity, they surely have an offline version of the manual on their computer and possibly built into their IDE. Clearly not everyone shares your situation: two days after release 180 customers have purchased the application. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-665933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 So what kind of features do you already ..... have. If you don't have the actual manual to parse from as of yet. What else does it do Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-665943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masna Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 So what kind of features do you already ..... have. If you don't have the actual manual to parse from as of yet. What else does it do A list of information for each function that I took from my parsing scripts is stored within the program. You can view all functions, search through them, and read basic information on them. This is outstanding... I'm getting flamed by moderators. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-665958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I wouldn't exactly call it flaming... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-665964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 More like critiquing. I see the idea behind it, an offline pocket PHP manual. Enter a function. Poof a description. Are you asking us what more things a particular person would want to know about a function or ..... I'm really not sure what else I'm asking. On the critique side again though, I'm with SA, I can't see the use. Sure if I was in a PHP class and needed a quick cheat sheet type thing it would be great or if I was having a drunk PHP conversation with someone at the bar which turned into an argument over whether or not the preg functions are POSIX or PCRE based, then sure...I could see myself using it. But really, if I could even afford an iPhone I wouldn't be leeching off the wireless of my neighbors right now. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-665973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masna Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Well I submitted an update to Apple that includes the complete manual for each function. It should most likely be in the store in a few days if anyone is in fact interested. If you find new suggestions please post. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-666020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stooney Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'm not opposing your idea as people obviously do buy it and it does make you money, but I would see myself just downloading the documentation and throwing it on a flashdrive instead. It's not very big. http://www.php.net/download-docs.php So as far as features goes, you would have to provide something that the downloaded docs don't. And as far as that goes, I have no ideas off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-666270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'm not opposing your idea as people obviously do buy it and it does make you money, but I would see myself just downloading the documentation and throwing it on a flashdrive instead. It's not very big. Wicked... you have a USB port connected to your brain?! Man you need to tell me how to do this so I can just carry a flashdrive around with all the info I need. Then I can just like scan in my textbooks and load it into my brain flashdrive and I'll ace my classes and exams. This is going to be awesome! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-666291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stooney Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'm not opposing your idea as people obviously do buy it and it does make you money, but I would see myself just downloading the documentation and throwing it on a flashdrive instead. It's not very big. Wicked... you have a USB port connected to your brain?! Man you need to tell me how to do this so I can just carry a flashdrive around with all the info I need. Then I can just like scan in my textbooks and load it into my brain flashdrive and I'll ace my classes and exams. This is going to be awesome! Haha, fair enough. I wrote that under the (probably incorrect) assumption most people have access to laptops these days. (I've gotten a few free ones from clients who buy new ones and would rather throw away the old one then keep it). All the same, if you have an iPhone (which you would need to buy the app anyways) I would assume (never used an iphone) that one could open some local html documents on it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-666360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'm not opposing your idea as people obviously do buy it and it does make you money, but I would see myself just downloading the documentation and throwing it on a flashdrive instead. It's not very big. Wicked... you have a USB port connected to your brain?! Man you need to tell me how to do this so I can just carry a flashdrive around with all the info I need. Then I can just like scan in my textbooks and load it into my brain flashdrive and I'll ace my classes and exams. This is going to be awesome! Haha, fair enough. I wrote that under the (probably incorrect) assumption most people have access to laptops these days. (I've gotten a few free ones from clients who buy new ones and would rather throw away the old one then keep it). All the same, if you have an iPhone (which you would need to buy the app anyways) I would assume (never used an iphone) that one could open some local html documents on it. More to the point, you could save the following web address as a bookmark in Safari: http://www.php.net/quickref.php Every PHP function, listed alphabetically. Straight from the source itself. And without the bloat of having a separate application delivering the same info. Not trying to be Captain Buzzkill here, Masna, but I think you're trying to reinvent the wheel. Good for you if people buy it, but I wouldn't (if I had an iPhone). Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-666373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masna Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'm not opposing your idea as people obviously do buy it and it does make you money, but I would see myself just downloading the documentation and throwing it on a flashdrive instead. It's not very big. Wicked... you have a USB port connected to your brain?! Man you need to tell me how to do this so I can just carry a flashdrive around with all the info I need. Then I can just like scan in my textbooks and load it into my brain flashdrive and I'll ace my classes and exams. This is going to be awesome! Haha, fair enough. I wrote that under the (probably incorrect) assumption most people have access to laptops these days. (I've gotten a few free ones from clients who buy new ones and would rather throw away the old one then keep it). All the same, if you have an iPhone (which you would need to buy the app anyways) I would assume (never used an iphone) that one could open some local html documents on it. More to the point, you could save the following web address as a bookmark in Safari: http://www.php.net/quickref.php Every PHP function, listed alphabetically. Straight from the source itself. And without the bloat of having a separate application delivering the same info. Not trying to be Captain Buzzkill here, Masna, but I think you're trying to reinvent the wheel. Good for you if people buy it, but I wouldn't (if I had an iPhone). Well the point is it's an offline manual, i.e., you don't have to be connected to the internet to access it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-666545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'm going to try to put this as delicately as possible. I cannot imagine a situation where I absolutely have to do PHP work without some sort of connection to the internet. Even on a test server that's not connected/visible to the outside world, at least one computer in my vicinity will have internet access. I mean, I dunno...maybe you wrote this app because you did encounter such a situation. But I'm having a real hard time coming up with a scenario where I have to write server-side code without some sort of internet connection available. Again, not trying to be an ass, and I'm not trying to belabor the point, but I can't think of any realistic situation that would require me to whip out my phone to access something like this. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-666583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropfaith Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 i have a php pocket reference guide with most of the functions if not all listed in it. inside my backpack that i carry around. but its more for brushing up while on buses to and from jobs and things like that.. but im one of those kids who carries like 3 notebooks just incase an idea strikes me a notebook seems like a better idea to pull out on buses full of people then my laptop.. so sometimes i do in fact need offline access but thats what books are for Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-666590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stooney Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 After looking it up (and assuming the site was right) I now know the app only costs $.99. At that price I could see where those who may travel or are often stuck somewhere where they can only write in a notebook (as I used to do a while back at work, I would write pseudo code to develop ideas at work where I could not use my laptop) could find this kinda handy. Although it's a rare case, the random situations do exist. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/128482-php-ref-not-an-advertisement/#findComment-666629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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