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hello I use the following css file:

 

body {background-color: #000000;}
IMG.pos_abs {position:absolute; left:0px; top:0px; z-index:2;}
IMG.1 {position:absolute; left: 505px; top: 1196px; z-index:1;}
IMG.2 {position:absolute; left: 960px; top: 258px; z-index:1;}
IMG.3 {position:absolute; left: 163px; top: 1272px; z-index:1;}
IMG.4 {position:absolute; left: 518px; top: 1023px; z-index:1;}
IMG.5 {position:absolute; left: 704px; top: 910px; z-index:1;}

 

for displaying a dynamic map.

 

A php script generates an amount of fetched numbers from an sql table and then displays small blue or red images on layer 1 according to wether the town is held by the user or not. The map is displayed on layer 2 and the areas that are the towns are transparent so that the lower layer can be seen. The background of the map page is set to black (as you can read from the css file).

 

This code works fine in Internet Explorer. However layer 1 will not display in Firefox! This causes problems for firefox users, since the towns will apear all as black (the background color) and not red or blue (layer 1 colors). In short firefox will not display layer 1.

 

I've changed position to relative or absolute and this does NOT fix the problem. I've swapped layer 1 for layer 2 and that makes the problem even worse, because now you can't click on the towns (layer 2 is an image map). I've swapped layer 1 for layer 2 and made image links out of layer the old layer and this does not work either.

 

Please does anyone know how to solve this and want to tell me the solution to this firefox bug?

 

thanks a lot

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Here is the code!

 

the php file:

 


$bluecapresult = mysql_query ("SELECT Yashiki FROM persons WHERE Clan ='$you'");
$bluecaprow = mysql_fetch_array($bluecapresult);
$capitol = $bluecaprow['Yashiki'];
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/bluecap.gif' class='".$capitol."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";

$blueresult = mysql_query ("SELECT * FROM Castles WHERE Castellan ='$you' AND Tenshu='0' AND CastleID <>'$capitol'");
while ($bluerow = mysql_fetch_array($blueresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/blue.gif' class='".$bluerow['CastleID']."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$bluecasresult = mysql_query ("SELECT * FROM Castles WHERE Castellan ='$you' AND Tenshu='1' AND CastleID <>'$capitol'");
while ($bluecasrow = mysql_fetch_array($bluecasresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/bluecas.gif' class='".$bluecasrow['CastleID']."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$redresult = mysql_query ("SELECT * FROM Castles WHERE Castellan <>'$you' AND Tenshu='0'");
while ($redrow = mysql_fetch_array($redresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/red.gif' class='".$redrow['CastleID']."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$redcasresult = mysql_query ("SELECT * FROM Castles WHERE Castellan <>'$you' AND Tenshu='1'");
while ($redcasrow = mysql_fetch_array($redcasresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/redcas.gif' class='".$redcasrow['CastleID']."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

}
?>
<IMG SRC="pictures/nihon.gif" BORDER=1 WIDTH=1200 HEIGHT=1600 USEMAP="#japan" class="pos_abs">
<MAP NAME="japan">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=1" COORDS="505,1196,514,1207" ALT="Aki">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=2" COORDS="960,258,968,266" ALT="Akita">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=3" COORDS="163,1272,174,1282" ALT="Akizuki">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=4" COORDS="518,1023,526,1032" ALT="Ako">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=5" COORDS="704,910,713,920" ALT="Anegawa">
</MAP>

 

 

the css file:


body {background-color: #000000;}
IMG.pos_abs {position:absolute; left:0px; top:0px; z-index:2;}
IMG.1 {position:absolute; left: 505px; top: 1196px; z-index:1;}
IMG.2 {position:absolute; left: 960px; top: 258px; z-index:1;}
IMG.3 {position:absolute; left: 163px; top: 1272px; z-index:1;}
IMG.4 {position:absolute; left: 518px; top: 1023px; z-index:1;}
IMG.5 {position:absolute; left: 704px; top: 910px; z-index:1;}

 

Again this works fine in Internet Explorer, but layer 1 will not display in Firefox.

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it validates as html. I can get the page to work in Internet Explorer 6 and 7, but it does not work properly in Firefox 2 and 3.

 

The layer with the towns simply will not display with firefox and the towns supposed to be blue or red, instead i get the black background to show in firefox.

 

Obviously the z-index isn't supported in firefox (or in other words firefox is bugged), but does anyone know how to get around this firefox bug? I like to make the map work in both firefox and internet explorer. I have a user with a MacKintosh OS and hence he is stuck with using firefox as his browser. I'd like to make the map work for him too. The windows users can always switch back to IE, but for the Mac user that is not an option.

 

Please any help would be very much obliged.

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The windows users can always switch back to IE, but for the Mac user that is not an option.

 

This is why we all try to code for optimum cross-browser support, and is exactly the reason to use proper standards compliant html and page validated DOCTYPE designation. NEVER, EVER test beta layouts using any IE first. Pages should first work in a modern browser like FF or Safari,  before even looking at it in IE, because Modern Browsers support the CSS spec much better and more evenly than IE (which uses its own rules for CSS) . You can always slap a conditional comment or IE only css file to tweak the issues that don't work in IE.

 

When you say "it validates as html."  What does that mean? Nothing validates as "html". It validates to a declared DOCTYPE and HTML version specification (html 4.01 strict, html 4.01 transitional, xhtml 1.1, etc.)

We assume you are not using a doctype, and therefore do not have a "validated" page, because you don't for your web site.

 

That puts the page automatically into Quirks Mode - which is close to coding FOR IE-only by default. When you use quirks mode, all cross-browser compatibility is out the window (no pun intended).

 

FF and other modern browsers support z-indexing just fine. The rule of thumb is when something works in IE but NOT in modern browsers ... don't blame the modern browser or always even IE ... blame your page structure, invalid standards compliant html and/or poor css syntax or markup level tag rules structure.

 

To see why your css or html is not working, I would rather see the browser generated html in full instead of a snippet of php.

 

You are designating classes for the IMG tags but don't seem to be echoing them. Are they contained within a div? Table? The whole page needs to be seen in their html generated, browser sided context before it can begin to be debugged.

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>shugo map</TITLE>
<META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="Japan map">
<script type="text/javascript">

function loadImages() {
if (document.getElementById) {  
document.getElementById('hidepage').style.visibility = 'hidden';
}
}
window.onload = loadImages;

function scrollWindow()
  {
  window.scrollTo(600,900)
  }
</script>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="styles/mapstyle.css"/>
</HEAD>
<BODY onload="scrollWindow()" value="Scroll">
<div id="hidepage" 
style="background-color: #FFFFCC; layer-background-color: #FFFFCC; width: 100%;">
<table width=100%><tr><td>Map is loading ... Please wait.</td></tr></table></div>
<?php
if (isset($_COOKIE["person"])) {
$you = $_COOKIE['person'];

$con = mysql_connect("localhost","shugonl","password");
if (!$con)
  {
  die('Could not connect: ' . mysql_error());
  }
mysql_select_db("shugonl", $con);

/*LAYER 0*/

//YOUR TOWNS

$bluecapresult = mysql_query ("SELECT Yashiki FROM persons WHERE Clan ='$you'");
$bluecaprow = mysql_fetch_array($bluecapresult);
$capitol = $bluecaprow['Yashiki'];
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/bluecap.gif' class='".$capitol."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";

$blueresult = mysql_query ("SELECT * FROM Castles WHERE Castellan ='$you' AND Tenshu='0' AND CastleID <>'$capitol'");
while ($bluerow = mysql_fetch_array($blueresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/blue.gif' class='".$bluerow['CastleID']."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$bluecasresult = mysql_query ("SELECT * FROM Castles WHERE Castellan ='$you' AND Tenshu='1' AND CastleID <>'$capitol'");
while ($bluecasrow = mysql_fetch_array($bluecasresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/bluecas.gif' class='".$bluecasrow['CastleID']."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

//ENEMY TOWNS

$redresult = mysql_query ("SELECT CastleID FROM Castles
WHERE Castellan <>'$you' AND Tenshu='0'");
while ($redrow = mysql_fetch_array($redresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/red.gif' class='".$redrow[CastleID]."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$redcasresult = mysql_query ("SELECT CastleID FROM Castles
WHERE Castellan <>'$you' AND Tenshu='1'");
while ($redcasrow = mysql_fetch_array($redcasresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/redcas.gif' class='".$redcasrow[CastleID]."' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

/*LAYER 1*/

//VASSAL TOWNS

$purpleresult = mysql_query ("SELECT A2.CastleID NOCASTLEF FROM persons A1, Castles A2
WHERE A1.Liege ='$you' AND A1.Clan = A2.Castellan <>'$you' AND A2.Tenshu='0'");
while ($purplerow = mysql_fetch_array($purpleresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/purple.gif' class='".$purplerow[NOCASTLEF]."F' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$purplecasresult = mysql_query ("SELECT A2.CastleID CASTLEF FROM persons A1, Castles A2
WHERE A1.Liege ='$you' AND A1.Clan = A2.Castellan <>'$you' AND A2.Tenshu='1'");
while ($purplecasrow = mysql_fetch_array($purplecasresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/purplecas.gif' class='".$purplecasrow[CASTLEF]."F' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

//LIEGE TOWNS

$yellowresult = mysql_query ("SELECT A2.CastleID NOCASTLEL FROM persons A1, Castles A2
WHERE A1.Clan ='$you' AND A1.Liege = A2.Castellan <>'$you' AND A2.Tenshu='0'");
while ($yellowrow = mysql_fetch_array($yellowresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/purple.gif' class='".$yellowrow[NOCASTLEL]."F' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$yellowcasresult = mysql_query ("SELECT A2.CastleID NOCASTLEL FROM persons A1, Castles A2
WHERE A1.Clan ='$you' AND A1.Liege = A2.Castellan <>'$you' AND A2.Tenshu='1'");
while ($yellowcasrow = mysql_fetch_array($yellowcasresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/purplecas.gif' class='".$yellowcasrow[NOCASTLEL]."F' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

//ALLIED TOWNS

$pinkresult = mysql_query ("SELECT A2.CastleID NOCASTLEA FROM Alliances A1, Castles A2
WHERE A1.Family ='$you' AND Marriage ='2' AND A1.Adopter = A2.Castellan <>'$you' AND A2.Tenshu='0'");
while ($pinkrow = mysql_fetch_array($pinkresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/purple.gif' class='".$pinkrow[NOCASTLEA]."F' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$pinkcasresult = mysql_query ("SELECT A2.CastleID NOCASTLEA FROM Alliances A1, Castles A2
WHERE A1.Family ='$you' AND Marriage ='2' AND A1.Adopter = A2.Castellan <>'$you' AND A2.Tenshu='1'");
while ($pinkcasrow = mysql_fetch_array($pinkcasresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/purplecas.gif' class='".$pinkcasrow[NOCASTLEA]."F' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$orangeresult = mysql_query ("SELECT A2.CastleID NOCASTLEA FROM Alliances A1, Castles A2
WHERE A1.Adopter ='$you' AND Marriage ='2' AND A1.Family = A2.Castellan <>'$you' AND A2.Tenshu='0'");
while ($orangerow = mysql_fetch_array($orangeresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/purple.gif' class='".$orangerow[NOCASTLEA]."F' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

$orangecasresult = mysql_query ("SELECT A2.CastleID NOCASTLEA FROM Alliances A1, Castles A2
WHERE A1.Adopter ='$you' AND Marriage ='2' AND A1.Family = A2.Castellan <>'$you' AND A2.Tenshu='1'");
while ($orangecasrow = mysql_fetch_array($orangecasresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/purplecas.gif' class='".$orangecasrow[NOCASTLEA]."F' BORDER='0' WIDTH='10' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

/*LAYER 3*/

//YOUR ARMIES

$armyresult = mysql_query ("SELECT DISTINCT Armylocation FROM Armies WHERE Armyclan ='$you'");
while ($armyrow = mysql_fetch_array($armyresult)){
echo "<IMG SRC='pictures/uma.gif' class='".$armyrow['Armylocation']."B' BORDER='0' WIDTH='5' HEIGHT='10'>";
}

/*LAYER 2*/

}
?>
<IMG SRC="pictures/nihon.gif" BORDER=1 WIDTH=1200 HEIGHT=1600 USEMAP="#japan" class="pos_abs">
<MAP NAME="japan">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=1" COORDS="505,1196,514,1207" ALT="Aki" title="Aki">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=2" COORDS="960,258,968,266" ALT="Akita" title="Akita">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=3" COORDS="163,1272,174,1282" ALT="Akizuki" title="Akizuki">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=4" COORDS="518,1023,526,1032" ALT="Ako" title="Ako">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=5" COORDS="704,910,713,920" ALT="Anegawa" title="Anegawa">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=6" COORDS="1066,849,1074,858" ALT="Arai" title="Arai">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=7" COORDS="782,734,791,743" ALT="Arakawa" title="Arakawa">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=8" COORDS="426,1231,435,1240" ALT="Asakura" title="Asakura">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=9" COORDS="694,950,705,960" ALT="Azuchi" title="Azuchi">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=10" COORDS="141,1263,150,1272" ALT="Dazaifu" title="Dazaifu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=11" COORDS="1065,787,1074,797" ALT="Edo" title="Edo">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=12" COORDS="367,1055,376,1065" ALT="Fuchu" title="Fuchu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=13" COORDS="656,1026,666,1035" ALT="Fujidera" title="Fujidera">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=14" COORDS="869,748,878,757" ALT="Fukashi" title="Fukashi">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=15" COORDS="968,860,977,869" ALT="Fukazawa" title="Fukazawa">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=16" COORDS="674,821,683,830" ALT="Fukui" title="Fukui">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=17" COORDS="178,1216,187,1225" ALT="Fukuoka" title="Fukuoka">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=18" COORDS="825,828,834,837" ALT="Fukushima" title="Fukushima">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=19" COORDS="393,1079,403,1088" ALT="Fukuyama" title="Fukuyama">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=20" COORDS="260,1295,269,1304" ALT="Funai" title="Funai">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=21" COORDS="660,974,669,983" ALT="Fushimi" title="Fushimi">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=22" COORDS="875,928,883,938" ALT="Futamata" title="Futamata">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=23" COORDS="764,877,773,886" ALT="Gifu" title="Gifu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=24" COORDS="1002,748,1011,758" ALT="Hachigata" title="Hachigata">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=25" COORDS="1050,123,1059,131" ALT="Hachinohe" title="Hachinohe">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=26" COORDS="1024,798,1033,808" ALT="Hachioji" title="Hachioji">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=27" COORDS="235,1114,244,1124" ALT="Hagi" title="Hagi">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=28" COORDS="113,1265,122,1275" ALT="Hakata" title="Hakata">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=29" COORDS="300,1042,309,1051" ALT="Hamada" title="Hamada">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=30" COORDS="867,954,876,962" ALT="Hamamatsu" title="Hamamatsu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=31" COORDS="128,1387,137,1397" ALT="Hara" title="Hara">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=32" COORDS="486,952,495,962" ALT="Hidaka" title="Hidaka">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=33" COORDS="524,1099,533,1108" ALT="Hikita" title="Hikita">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=34" COORDS="701,939,711,949" ALT="Hikone" title="Hikone">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=35" COORDS="566,999,575,1009" ALT="Himeji" title="Himeji">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=36" COORDS="25,1286,35,1296" ALT="Hirado" title="Hirado">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=37" COORDS="953,117,962,125" ALT="Hirosaki" title="Hirosaki">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=38" COORDS="332,1111,341,1120" ALT="Hiroshima" title="Hiroshima">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=39" COORDS="248,1176,256,1185" ALT="Hofu" title="Hofu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=40" COORDS="635,978,644,987" ALT="Homoyama" title="Homoyama">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=41" COORDS="640,995,649,1004" ALT="Ibaraki" title="Ibaraki">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=42" COORDS="51,1321,60,1331" ALT="Iimori" title="Iimori">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=43" COORDS="390,1155,398,1164" ALT="Imabari" title="Imabari">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=44" COORDS="768,901,777,910" ALT="Inuyama" title="Inuyama">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=45" COORDS="1116,676,1125,685" ALT="Ishioka" title="Ishioka">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=46" COORDS="301,1158,310,1167" ALT="Iwakuni" title="Iwakuni">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=47" COORDS="853,877,863,886" ALT="Iwamura" title="Iwamura">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=48" COORDS="1046,780,1055,789" ALT="Iwatsuki" title="Iwatsuki">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=49" COORDS="132,1245,143,1256" ALT="Iwaya" title="Iwaya">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=50" COORDS="632,1052,641,1061" ALT="Izumi" title="Izumi">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=51" COORDS="173,1500,183,1510" ALT="Kagoshima" title="Kagoshima">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=52" COORDS="899,941,908,950" ALT="Kakegawa" title="Kakegawa">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=53" COORDS="1052,838,1061,847" ALT="Kamakura" title="Kamakura">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=54" COORDS="737,997,746,1007" ALT="Kameyama" title="Kameyama">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=55" COORDS="599,957,608,967" ALT="Kameyama" title="Kameyama">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=56" COORDS="960,799,969,808" ALT="Kamiizumi" title="Kamiizumi">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=57" COORDS="681,869,690,879" ALT="Kanagasaki" title="Kanagasaki">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=58" COORDS="1020,734,1029,743" ALT="Kanagawa" title="Kanagawa">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=59" COORDS="869,706,878,716" ALT="Kanawakajima" title="Kanawakajima">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=60" COORDS="935,746,944,755" ALT="Kanayama" title="Kanayama">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=61" COORDS="702,737,710,745" ALT="Kanazawa" title="Kanazawa">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=62" COORDS="951,887,961,896" ALT="Kanbara" title="Kanbara">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=63" COORDS="701,960,710,970" ALT="Kannonji" title="Kannonji">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=64" COORDS="1052,605,1060,614" ALT="Karasawayama" title="Karasawayama">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=65" COORDS="122,1252,131,1262" ALT="Karatsu" title="Karatsu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=66" COORDS="1031,764,1040,774" ALT="Kawagoe" title="Kawagoe">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=67" COORDS="827,801,836,811" ALT="Kiso" title="Kiso">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=68" COORDS="763,915,772,924" ALT="Kiyosu" title="Kiyosu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=69" COORDS="440,1192,450,1201" ALT="Kochi" title="Kochi">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=70" COORDS="934,814,943,823" ALT="Kofu" title="Kofu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=71" COORDS="717,962,727,972" ALT="Koka" title="Koka">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=72" COORDS="245,1283,254,1293" ALT="Kokokufu" title="Kokokufu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=73" COORDS="217,1521,227,1531" ALT="Kokubu" title="Kokubu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=74" COORDS="150,1216,160,1225" ALT="Kokura" title="Kokura">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=75" COORDS="1078,765,1087,775" ALT="Konodai" title="Konodai">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=76" COORDS="689,780,698,789" ALT="Komatsu" title="Komatsu">
<AREA SHAPE="rect" HREF="town.php?town=77" COORDS="340,1078,349,1087" ALT="Koriyama" title="Koriyama">
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and this is why this page gives me the feeling to throw FireBUG out of the window and stop crossbrowser support alltogether

 

if it weren't for the occasional Mac user, I'd disregard Firefox, but that is how I feel (no pun intended)

 

when I switch layer 0 with layer 2, both layers will show, but then towns can't be clicked on (and that is no good either). It seems that whenever the top layer completely covers the bottom layers FF doesn't want to display the lower layers and that dbrimlow is what makes me think FF is bugged.

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FF2 compares to the newer version of Pong in the way IE6 compares to the older version of Pong (and its the older version that is better)

 

to give you an analogy

 

but anyway bottomline is like to find a solution to this problem, at least I'm hoping there is something that doesn't require me to make a 1 layer tile map, instead of what I have now. Hence why I am getting rather desperate to solve this.

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What you're saying is that you'd rather use invalid code so the guess of a browser only available to windows users gets it right as opposed to following the standards so people are free to choose the browser of their liking.

Quirk modes rendering your page fine means that your guesswork coincidentally was the same as IE's guess.

 

I for one would just find another page doing the same thing instead of using your service so if that's a public page it will be the loss of a customer and I'm far from the only one who thinks like this. Even it's for an intranet, you're helping the vendor  lock-in as there's quite a few companies unable to upgrade their browser or move to linux/mac since their intranet applications were made to work with IE only.

 

1. In addition to any bugs, the behaviour of Firefox 2 and below regarding stacking contexts and z-index reflects the CSS 2 Specification which was significantly changed in the CSS 2.1 Candidate Recommendation. In particular, the treatment of stacking contexts with negative z-index values is very different (rendered below the parent context's background) from the CSS 2.1 behaviour exhibited in Firefox 3 (rendered above the parent context's background).

If you're only concerned about the Mac User then tell him to upgrade his browser as Firefox 3 has been out for ages.

 

I'd first try to follow the standards though instead of relying on the guess of ONE browser.

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yup and its the invalid that works better (I know irony here). Can you give me a link to the other page, because I suspect it is one that only overlaps something like 90% and not completely (and hence it wouldn't work).

 

I guess the only solution is the make the map a single layer tiles map (hello to travian style maps :( bah)

 

perhaps I can ask the mac user to switch to safari, because the bug doesn't seem to appear in IE6, IE7, IE8 and safari, it only appears in FF2 and FF3. It really seems to be a FF only problem.

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Like mentioned before, you're not writing valid markup so browsers starts guessing. IE and Safari accidentally guess it right.

Firefox guesses it wrong.

What Opera's guess would be.. who knows.

 

That's why writing VALID HTML as defined by the World Wide Web Consortium is the first step to getting the same result in all browsers. As they can read and understand your code.. instead of going "mmmh what am I going to do with this".

Additionally you're making search engines guess as well wont do your search rating much good.

 

What 'other' site are you talking about?  The link to the mozilla  bit was above the quote, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Understanding_CSS_z-index/Adding_z-index

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axiea it doesn't matter what markup you use (valid or invalid, loose or strict), it won't work in FF. Even if I did have the right markup for FF (which there isn't), I'd still need to write a script were the browser is detected and I doubt i can make that work, because the javascript is already causing problems with Opera.

 

thefilmgod I only use absolute positioning on that page, because fixed and relative won't work

 

its like the faster the browser, the less accurate the page is displayed

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>>IE with a Mac computer<<

 

???!!!

 

The last IE made for a Mac was IE 5.03. It did not display absolute positioning or any css well and required hacks galore. Most of us stopped using hacks for IE 5 last year and anyone with a Mac who uses IE should be ashamed of themselves.

 

You're frustrated ... we know how it feels, we've all been there. But seriously, we learned not to blame the browser but to blame ourselves ... something you are doing is creating the problem with FF, not FF. I can see from your markup that you also use inline styling and deprecated markup tag styling. But you still didn't show the results of browser-side htmlcode (not php which doesn't help us) and/or the full css.

 

I would bet we can find the problem quickly.

 

Today, since IE at best only has a 60% market share, we can't afford to ignore Modern browsers and standards. I will not visit a site a 2nd time that requires IE to make it work.

 

 

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<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>shugo map</TITLE>
<META NAME="keywords" CONTENT="Japan map">
<script type="text/javascript">

function loadImages() {
if (document.getElementById) {  
document.getElementById('hidepage').style.visibility = 'hidden';
}
}
window.onload = loadImages;

function scrollWindow()
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  }
</script>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="styles/mapstyle.css"/>
</HEAD>
<BODY onload="scrollWindow()" value="Scroll">
<div id="hidepage" 
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