Vinze Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Hey, the ex of my mother left without leaving us the admin password of her PC. Of course we'd like to retrieve this password so I've searched the internet a bit for programs that do this for us. I found this and this, but they both require you to make a bootable floppy or to burn a .iso onto a CD. Unfortunately, my mother does not have a floppy drive and we have no CD burner. Is it possible to put the CD image on a USB stick? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You could put the files for the bootable floppy on the USB stick and then boot from it. That would probably work, I'm not sure though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-228860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 unless i'm missing something, i'd safely guess that 9/10 computer dealers/repair centers would happily burn a recovery CD for you for pennies (if not free) if you ask them nicely... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-228879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadTechie Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 try an old classic at the login screen if you have a selection to pick an account then press ctrl+alt_del (twice) a new (old style login screen will appear) try username Administrator password (blank) <-- no password if all else fails try this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/01/usb-knoppix-510 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-228920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neylitalo Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 try an old classic at the login screen if you have a selection to pick an account then press ctrl+alt_del (twice) a new (old style login screen will appear) try username Administrator password (blank) <-- no password um... I knew Windows was insecure, but I wasn't aware that it reached that far. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-228999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koobi Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 if your BIOS allows you to boot via USB i don't see why you can't do this. i had a linux distro that ran off the USB once, like a live CD and i used to boot it via USB from my BIOS. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Not only do you need to configure the BIOS to boot from a USB drive, you'll also need to add a bootsector to the stick. Here's a tool to do that: Mkbt Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 try an old classic at the login screen if you have a selection to pick an account then press ctrl+alt_del (twice) a new (old style login screen will appear) try username Administrator password (blank) <-- no password um... I knew Windows was insecure, but I wasn't aware that it reached that far. In some versions of Windows XP it doesn't ask for a password for 'Administrator'. It doesn't even tell you it is there as it is hidden, though in Windows XP Home it is disabled when not in safe-mode. It did ask for a password when I installed the Media Center Edition version on my computer though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Just for clarification of the above as I think it could be misunderstood: SETTING a password for Administrator is optional. If it is set, you'll have to enter it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neylitalo Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 In some versions of Windows XP it doesn't ask for a password for 'Administrator'. It doesn't even tell you it is there as it is hidden, though in Windows XP Home it is disabled when not in safe-mode. My head hurts. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koobi Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Not only do you need to configure the BIOS to boot from a USB drive, you'll also need to add a bootsector to the stick. Here's a tool to do that: Mkbt yeah that's a good point. but some distro's do all that for you i believe. but i'm talking about linux here and he is probably talking about windows in which case he would need to create the boot sector. what is the OS you are trying to get into vinze? XP? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadTechie Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 what is the OS you are trying to get into vinze? XP? I wasn't aware that any PC fully supporting vista unless you want to run vista by itself (it doesn't play nice with others) Techie trick #2 If you have WinXP.. Get a Win2000 CD and goto recovery console.. ooow no password required.. now CD %SystemRoot%\System32 rename logon.scr logon.old copy cmd.exe logon.scr reboot wait for screen saver io mean command prompt now net user Administrator letmein if this part fails do the following start explorer.exe now you should be logged in as System EDIT: To make your system less vulnerable to this type of hack, you should disable logon.scr from loading at bootup. This can be done with a registry edit: HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop For the value screensaver.exe, change it to none and set the value ScreenSaverActive to No. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 what is the OS you are trying to get into vinze? XP? I wasn't aware that any PC fully supporting vista unless you want to run vista by itself (it doesn't play nice with others) Techie trick #2 If you have WinXP.. Get a Win2000 CD and goto recovery console.. ooow no password required.. now CD %SystemRoot%\System32 rename logon.scr logon.old copy cmd.exe logon.scr reboot wait for screen saver io mean command prompt now net user Administrator letmein if this part fails do the following start explorer.exe now you should be logged in as System EDIT: To make your system less vulnerable to this type of hack, you should disable logon.scr from loading at bootup. This can be done with a registry edit: HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop For the value screensaver.exe, change it to none and set the value ScreenSaverActive to No. Or just take your WinXP cd and boot into recovery mode (or whatever it is called), then run the net user command from there to change the password. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadTechie Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Or just take your WinXP cd and boot into recovery mode (or whatever it is called), then run the net user command from there to change the password. Windows XP CD Will ask for administrator password win2000 will not also net user Administrator letmein doesn't seam to work from the Recovery console. humm infact it maybe 50/50 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinze Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Not only do you need to configure the BIOS to boot from a USB drive, you'll also need to add a bootsector to the stick. Here's a tool to do that: Mkbt yeah that's a good point. but some distro's do all that for you i believe. but i'm talking about linux here and he is probably talking about windows in which case he would need to create the boot sector. what is the OS you are trying to get into vinze? XP? It's Windows XP. I know that USB sticks can be booted, but can they also boot a CD image? I guess the .iso would need to be extracted in some way or something, right? I was also planning to put Xubuntu on that USB stick after I had recovered the password for my mother, but if you also know of a way to retrieve that password with Xubuntu then that would be great too. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koobi Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 what is the OS you are trying to get into vinze? XP? I wasn't aware that any PC fully supporting vista unless you want to run vista by itself (it doesn't play nice with others) i don't think i understand what you've said there. how do you mean? It's Windows XP. I know that USB sticks can be booted, but can they also boot a CD image? I guess the .iso would need to be extracted in some way or something, right? I was also planning to put Xubuntu on that USB stick after I had recovered the password for my mother, but if you also know of a way to retrieve that password with Xubuntu then that would be great too. if you want to run linux of a USB later on, consider Slax Linux instead. i don't think you can use Linux or any other version of Windows to get your password back other than the Windows XP that you have already installed and are having problems with. have you looked around the microsoft knowledgebase for this sort of thing? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinze Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 It's Windows XP. I know that USB sticks can be booted, but can they also boot a CD image? I guess the .iso would need to be extracted in some way or something, right? I was also planning to put Xubuntu on that USB stick after I had recovered the password for my mother, but if you also know of a way to retrieve that password with Xubuntu then that would be great too. if you want to run linux of a USB later on, consider Slax Linux instead. Well, Xubuntu is my favourite distro, and as it's for fun that I'm putting Linux on the USB stick, I'll go with Xubuntu i don't think you can use Linux or any other version of Windows to get your password back other than the Windows XP that you have already installed and are having problems with. have you looked around the microsoft knowledgebase for this sort of thing? Well, I guess you're not supposed to be able to retrieve the admin password. However, the programs I linked to are able to retrieve or at least change that password, if only you can put them on a bootable floppy or burn them onto a CD. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadTechie Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Sorry i was just poking fun at Vista, it seams to hate all my software and video card.. ended up removing it after 4 days.. PS my PC is update.. what is the OS you are trying to get into vinze? XP? I wasn't aware that any PC fully supporting vista unless you want to run vista by itself (it doesn't play nice with others) i don't think i understand what you've said there. how do you mean? You can get the password back but overwritting it is quicker.. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 You could also crack the password: http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/ OR ask the person who has the password what it is. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinze Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 You could also crack the password: http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/ OR ask the person who has the password what it is. That program seems too complicated for me. And we've asked the ex of my mother, but he won't respond (he also still owes her a lot of money - no sign of that too ) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/46917-how-can-i-put-a-cd-image-on-a-usb-drive/#findComment-229400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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