SomeGuy242323 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 http://showtime.ewcentral.com I've been web designing for a few years now, and I think this is one of my best layouts. The site is still heavily a WIP, but the layout is staying as is (even if I get bad critiques). I've got many good reviews for the layout, but I always love more opinions (and to stroke my ego, lol). I'm not looking to advertise, because I tried the web designer route before, and it's too much work for what little free time I have in my life. I think it's just after looking at it maybe 100 times a day makes me grow weary of it and makes me think it looks like crap now, lol. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcdarkmage Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Where to start . . . The layout works well with the content. On the left, where it says SHO UP CLOSE, you may want to change that to UP CLOSE. In the Upcoming Events, the "tag" font is annoying. I couldn't tell what it said when I first entered the site. You may want to tone it down to a more readable font. the banner is a bit busy, but works. The dark green that you use when you first mention "Grizzly" is a little too dark. It almost blends in with the background. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/#findComment-376613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moberemk Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 It's nice, and the header is cool. The only real problem is the low contrast-get some lighter colours in there instead of the dark grey on darker grey. Aside from the fact that some of the image-text words like Latest News seem a little stretched-out vertically, the heavy use of tables, the massive amount of validation errors, and inaccessible form design, the header is cool. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/#findComment-376721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Mm to many validation errors. Even though you have it set to transitional which is very lax and ignores most errors, there are STILL tons showing up! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/#findComment-377246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeGuy242323 Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 I was not aware of the validation errors, although I never really put it through a checker. I'm trying to get the site up and running first the way it needs to look/operate first, then cleaning up the code later. You know, kinda like cleaning up algebra in calculus....wait, scratch that, it's nothing of the same Moberemk, I would like to know what form is inaccessible, and how, if you care to elaborate. This is why I'm a game designer, and not a web designer though, lol. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/#findComment-377294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moberemk Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Well, for one thing, your forms have no label elements, which is pretty bad right there. You also use inline styles (something of a no-no) and you have no alt text. One of the big things in form design is trying to keep it as simple as possible, and your lack of labels, inline styles, and tables really don't help matters. Also, just a word of advice: it's easier to avoid problems early then fix them later. If you're a game designer, you should understand code debugging, right? It's just like that-get it right the first time. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/#findComment-377459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The font for the body text is a little too small, and needs padding. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/#findComment-377582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellis Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The width of your layout will result in a horizontal scroll bar in any browser window that is less than 1024 (and a bit) pixels wide. Perhaps you could consider using percentage widths (and making your header expandable) on your tables to overcome this. Most of the layout appears as though it would take well to a liquid design. Higher contrast in your emphasised text wouldn't go astray. As for accessibility... don't even think about it if you're using tables... just stick with what you know and accept that spiders won't be able to crawl your content all that simply... nor text readers and the like. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/#findComment-377745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeGuy242323 Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 moberemk, I'm working on making it all w3c valid, however, as anyone can tell you, it's a pain in the ass to fix something correctly...quick fixes are so much easier to use, lol. 448191, I was thinking of upping the padding as well. As for the body text, it's personal preference and until I get a complaint from my employeer about it, I think it stays. If you increase the text size the layout should work...I hope jellis, I'm pretty sure I made the layout so it fits in 1024 wide. That was my intention. It's >900 pixels wide, and again, that's a design preference of mine. I like sites that have expandable outside backgrounds, and nice little middles. It's a design preference. A liquid design could work, but it would make the site wayyy too short if you have a high resolution. As for spiders....f them, lol. I'm tired of what I can and can't do with them. Can't use id as a variable because Google won't archive it...bleh. So much extra work just to get it working optimized. Same thing with tables. Sure, divs are the wave of the future, but for now, tables are very easy and accessable, and cause the least problems cross-browsers, at least to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/#findComment-380001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I applied a little Firebug magic (I've fallen in love with Firebug ) and made a screenshot. [attachment deleted by admin] Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/74495-critique-layout/#findComment-380924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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