GingerRobot Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 <!-- who said we're not here for your entertainment --> Umm, well effigy did. Just yesterday in fact We're not here for entertainment. Why add more code and content for something utterly pointless? I vote to cut the fat and the frills. We already have avatars and signatures to be "less boring" anyhow. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-540196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 <!-- more rhetorical comments --> Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-540198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerRobot Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 "How to take a thread off-track by 448191" - sounds like a good read to me! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-540204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameYin Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 LOL. Who gave me the interesting title LOL! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-540269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilis_money Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Why everybody wants to have a good title? Eric offered me to be an admin/mod before but i declined because i know it's a responsibility. I love being an ordinary and simple member. BTW, how's eric ober? i don't see him posting here anymore. LOL. Who gave me the interesting title LOL! gameyin prove yourself first, just like the other mods/admin here. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-541487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameYin Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 No, LOOK, at my title. See what's there? I'm wondering which mod did it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-541671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilis_money Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 No, LOOK, at my title. See what's there? I'm wondering which mod did it. Yeah i saw it. "Impressive Title" ha ha ha funny title. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-541719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phpSensei Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Everything was great before, there is no need to change anything. I think people with more posts are more reliable and other members should see who they can trust, and who they shouldnt. 1500+ would obviously mean your a loyal member to the site, and offer good help IMO. The ranks inspired me to make good posts and help out more to reach a newer rank. Now I feel (as Revraz Said) bored. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-542574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted May 16, 2008 Author Share Posted May 16, 2008 I could name a few people who does have a lot of posts but certainly are not good. Instead of getting inspired to get a new post count based rank you could get inspired to become a guru or even recommended. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-542609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameYin Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 But you said only you appoint them. No sucking up allowed. Maybe he is already thinking about being one but you just haven't promoted him? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-542746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted May 16, 2008 Author Share Posted May 16, 2008 Well, obviously there are certain requirements that must be fulfilled. Simply wanting it (whether you express it openly or not) does not yield a promotion. It works like we have a topic in some hidden forum where members can be nominated. If enough people agree then a promotion will take place. The recommended position is not that easy to get it. That's also the reason why the last promotion to that was about half a year ago. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-542761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameYin Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 It's how my forum works. www.devhunters.com Not MY forum, but I'm SpOrTsDuDe.Reese on there. That's how we operate. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-542820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phpSensei Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I could name a few people who does have a lot of posts but certainly are not good. Instead of getting inspired to get a new post count based rank you could get inspired to become a guru or even recommended. You know my chances are slim to none, but how do you even pick Gurus? You check which topic has been mostly solved by a single person? Maybe that person isn't as experienced as you might think. You know GOOGLE is pretty much where you can find 98% of the answers to most topics right? that "GURU" can maybe good at searching for the answers, rather than solving it himself. You guys should pick GURUS based on Skills, Knowledge, and Maybe a little Quiz. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-542840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 whether someone gets all their answers via Googling for them or all their information via Wikipedia, makes no difference to me personally. The question gets answered all the same and it's still very helpful to have someone give you a hand researching something. So basically - as long as someone is helpful and sticks to the rules, they stand out with those that actually vote. Doesn't guarantee a position or anything but it gets a discussion. Listen - main thing to remember is that whatever we do, there's always gonna be those that don't like it. The main site isn't launched yet - but I know some wont like it even before people have even had a sniff. It's just the way it works, so lets agree to disagree and say that this is the way we are doing things right now and this is how it's gonna stay for the forseeable. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-542982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenway Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 You guys should pick GURUS based on Skills, Knowledge, and Maybe a little Quiz. We do.... trust us. No need for a "quiz". Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-543017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phpSensei Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I am simply applying that you guys should create something else to inspire members to contribute to the site, and to post more. You guys also took down the competitions too, you could have just left it! Let the members post their own competitions and have others join/leave them. edit: We don't need prizes either, just competing can gain reputation, thus the more rep, the easier for you guys to choose another "guru", or promote someone. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-543175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted May 16, 2008 Author Share Posted May 16, 2008 We haven't dropped the competitions. Not permanently at least. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-543178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peranha Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Let the members post their own competitions and have others join/leave them. I agree with this, looking at these, is how I tought myself, I am not good at thinking of things, but when ideas come up, I may be interested in trying to make them and so work at making it. It is a way for me to get more in depth with programming. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-543179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Ohhh never saw this thread ;p. Anyway, glad to be one of the first Gurus ;p. I must agree with the earlier discussion of post count != intelligence. I can think of atleast 2 people who have a ton of posts, but sometimes they post answers and I almost laugh out loud. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-543364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phpSensei Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Anyways, if you take up this suggestion into consideration then do the following: - Competition Section. User posts a competition that needs to be confirmed by a moderator or administrator. It will be reviewed, then confirmed or denied. Can offer a prize or just for fun/reputation, either way its good. Only registered members can see the forum (so people don't steal the codes). Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-543370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phpSensei Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I would also like to add that this way, we don't need one Thread that everyone will post suggestions in. If a bunch of people like someones idea, but the moderators or other members don't, then creating our own competitions would be efficient and fun. I've seen tons of great ideas that were formed on the suggestion thread for comps, but most of them ignored. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-543637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerRobot Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 To be honest, i dont think there would be a lot of point in having people creating their own competitions. If there were more than one people run I dont think people would actually bother to enter. And those that did would more than likely not produce anything decent. That said, I would like to see the competition idea back. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-543655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phpSensei Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 To be honest, i dont think there would be a lot of point in having people creating their own competitions. If there were more than one people run I dont think people would actually bother to enter. And those that did would more than likely not produce anything decent. Thats why mods would confirm/deny the competition if they didn't think anyone would join! The Admins & Mods should really stop doing whats in their best interest and start taking decisions that the community should take a say in. This is why its called a community, and honestly most of the decisions were good for the bigger parts of the site, but small things like COMPS is what makes things fun, challenging and exciting round here. The ranks were also pretty good too, meaning we are getting titled for our contribution to the site. C'mon! Bring up the hype or something... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-543894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 The ranks were also pretty good too, meaning we are getting titled for our contribution to the site. You still get titled, but only for expertise and providing valuable help or insights. Not for asking simple questions, even though asking questions is contributing too. Let's just leave it at that, I don't want this thread to get ugly (and locked). The competition thing is at a halt because it takes time to organize and manage a competition. The current staff can hardly find the time to build the main site (bar one Daniel0), which is more pressing. I too would like to see the competitions back. Maybe the fresh blood in the ranks (the newly appointed Gurus) can take the initiative in organizing the next competition (please use the private staff boards). Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-544015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenway Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 A competition is only "fun" if it's run properly and there are some objective criteria based upon which a winner is selected... in the past, these judges were the mods/admins. It would be difficult to have random members judging, unless there was a pre-selected panel (maybe Gurus/PFRs). Either way, the point is that it takes time & effort. And for those of us with real-life responsiblities, it's simply not always feasible to take on too many extras hours of forum work above that which we already have. The Admins & Mods should really stop doing whats in their best interest and start taking decisions that the community should take a say in. I doubt that many others would echo this sentiment. The purpose of this thread was to announce the new Guru status, not to have it up for debate. As always, members are welcome to give their opinions & suggestions, but the decision to remove post-based ranks and replace it with a designation has been made, and is not up for debate at this point. The new designations were simply designed to make it easier to rely on someone's experience and expertise, nothing more. This was not taking a shot at the other members, who contribute in a positive fashion every hour of every day. Besides, the true spirit of a community is to contribute to the greater good -- if you need kudos, 26 stars or an arbitrary title to motivate you, that's not really in the spirit of community either. There's nothing wrong with being rewarded, but it's not a reward if you're expecting it. Just my $0.02 -- and FWIW, I speak for myself, not the entire mod team (unless they happen to agree). Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/105139-php-freaks-gurus/page/2/#findComment-544107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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