MasterACE14 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I've been looking into building a new PC, this 4 year old piece of fail just doesn't cut it anymore. I was looking into just buying the parts I needed and putting it together, price doesn't really matter. I'll mostly be using the computer for playing all the latest games, farcry 2, Tom Clancy's Hawks, GTAIV etc... as well as my Web Development, photoshop and all that... After doing abit of research I think I'm not going to build my comp anymore but rather purchase this Intel Extreme Gaming PC IEGI940 which I will most likely buy from here... http://www.ddcomputer.com.au/prod-IEGI940-proddes_Intel_Extreme_Gaming_PC_IEGI940.html I just want to know what your thoughts are on the performance of this computer, in particular for gaming. It looks amazingly impressive, and I'm curious as to whether it will perform as good as it sounds. Regards, ACE Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I'd say at least half of that pricetag is the fancy case it comes in. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterACE14 Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 lol yeah, case is $225 in the cheapest store in Aus. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterACE14 Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 half the price would be the case, as well as the monitor and speakers. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 The specs aren't that bad, but I still think it's a bit overpriced. I got better specs off of newegg (OS not included) for $2400 (US dollars ofc.) Hell, you could even switch out the processors for the BE EE, and still be under $3k (and thats 300MHz faster + easier to OC) Your only trade offs are: you dont have to build it yourself, and you have a complete warranty. But it's your call, after all it's your money Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I would defintely recommend not buying a pre-built computer assuming you know how to build one. They charge a fortune to do something that can be done in about 1 hour if you know what your doing. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterACE14 Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 I would defintely recommend not buying a pre-built computer assuming you know how to build one. They charge a fortune to do something that can be done in about 1 hour if you know what your doing. I've never built a computer before, but have mates that would gladly show me how to. you dont have to build it yourself, and you have a complete warranty. But it's your call, after all it's your money yeah the price doesn't really bother me, as long as I'm getting what I want, and the Warranty is always good to have. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesideez Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 If you have the money and it isn't really a concern then go for it. Just think tho if you made it yourself and bought all the parts separately you can build a monster system for a fraction of the price and you'll have a system to fit your exact needs. I've found most pre-built machines out there have something inside it that costs money that the end user won't utilitise or even need. I had one client recently who has a 7 year old machine but all they do is emails and Excel and was wondering about buying a new one, something they could do with throwing the cash in a better place. Seeing the CPU and everything else was OK I installed more RAM and they're happy as. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I would defintely recommend not buying a pre-built computer assuming you know how to build one. They charge a fortune to do something that can be done in about 1 hour if you know what your doing. Thanks for stating the obvious. That's like saying you would save a ton of money by building your own site, if you know what you're doing. Or hey, if I bought my own parts and did it myself, I'd save a ton of money on parts and labor, building my own car. Well, duh. But how many people can say that? If the average joe could do things like that, then there would be no industry/jobs having to do with things like that. Even with Plug and Play technology making it a ton easier to install stuff (most people around here probably don't even know what it was like before Plug and Play), you can't just willy nilly point at something and expect everything to universally fit and work with everything else. Putting together a computer is still beyond average joe user's capability. Hell, even adding a single thing like more RAM is still beyond average joe user's capability. You probably laugh at that and say yeah right, because it's more or less a no brainer. If that is the case, I invite you to go down to your local bestbuy or busy street corner and conduct a survey, asking passersby how versed they are in putting together their own computer, or even installing a single thing, like RAM. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrg_alpha Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Yeah, count me in as one of those people.. Well, I have changed my own RAM and videocard before (so I'm not completely inept in that department), but if someone was to dump all the components of a PC infront of me and say, "Assemble this.", I would basically look like a deer in oncoming headlights. My buddy who worked in an IT department of a tech company built my last PC. So I was at his place observing how things were done, and thus have seen the whole process, but doesn't mean I would be able to re-execute it. I suppose with enough patience, the proper tools and extras (like CPU thermal paste as an example- assuming it's still in use) as well as the motherboard manual to know how to set jumpers and what plugs into where and whatnot, I would manage, but it would be an intimidating chore to be sure (which would drag out longer than an hour as well), as I have never done a complete PC on my own. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterACE14 Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 yeah I that's why I think if I buy the pre-built comp that appears to meet my needs and wants then that's the way to go. At the end of the day, I just want a comp that runs as good as I thought it would. Regardless of its price, and whether it was pre-built or custom built. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I still get a lot more satisfaction when I build my own. The thing is (as said before), you can get higher quality products and DIY, or go with cheaper products and be lazy/safe Personally, I would go and build my own (and if you don't know how, I'm sure you know somebody that would build it for you for a fraction of the cost.) However I think you already knew what you were going to do when you asked the question in the original post. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcombs_31 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I would make the assumption that a programmer has the common knowledge of computer parts and how to assemble them. The motherboard manual will pretty much walk you through all connections. I recently built a new computer and haven't done so in about 5 years, so the hardware certainly was a little different but all you have to do is read the manual. I can understand being a little nervous about breaking something but I can't see spending twice the amount for something I could figure out on my own. Again, I'm making the assumption that most programmers have the basic logic and computer knowledge to figure it out. This is a programming forum after all. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I've never assembled a computer before. I'm pretty sure I'd be able to, but it would probably take me a little while considering I've never done something like that before. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Come on man.. even within the programming world, just because you know php doesn't mean you automatically know any other language out there. You simply have one up on the person who's never programmed at all, because you understand the principle better. But that doesn't mean you know the syntax. Or with spoken language. I can be very good at speaking English. That doesn't mean I suddenly know how to speak French. And these examples are restricted to similar playing fields. Why would you assume that a programmer has the common knowledge of computer parts and how to assemble them? Software and hardware are two different things. You might argue that a programmer might be more likely to read relevant documents and systematically go through the steps and pay attention, but knowledge in one thing does not equate to knowledge in another thing. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackpf Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I built my two pcs from scratch. It's an awesome experience - especially the sense of achievement you get when it's finished, and the fact that you're using a pc you created. I imagine it's like what a mother feels for their child Plus it cost me like 1/3 of the price. And in response to Crayon Violent, I believe it's more viable that a programmer would possess the knowledge of how to build a pc, as a result of their interest in computers. But yes, I agree that a programmer does not necessarily know how to build a computer. Just the special ones Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcombs_31 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Come on man.. even within the programming world, just because you know php doesn't mean you automatically know any other language out there. You simply have one up on the person who's never programmed at all, because you understand the principle better. But that doesn't mean you know the syntax. Or with spoken language. I can be very good at speaking English. That doesn't mean I suddenly know how to speak French. And these examples are restricted to similar playing fields. Why would you assume that a programmer has the common knowledge of computer parts and how to assemble them? Software and hardware are two different things. You might argue that a programmer might be more likely to read relevant documents and systematically go through the steps and pay attention, but knowledge in one thing does not equate to knowledge in another thing. I make the assumption because I would also assume people are interested in computers and how they work before they decide to write programs for them. Sure, hardware and software are two completely different things, but someone who writes software should at the very least have a basic understanding of the hardware. I think your final sentence is more or less my point. You may have never put together a computer before, but you should be able to pretty easily figure it out. It really isn't very difficult and you can save quite a bit of money. I thought my assumption was fairly safe but I guess I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Well you also assume that just because someone calls himself a programmer, that somehow makes them a good programmer. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterACE14 Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 looking at the specs of this comp, will it be able to run farcry 2, fallout 3, crysis, GTAIV full graphics no problem at all? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackpf Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 A programmer is more likely to be able to build a pc, I think jcombs_31's point is. Or not. Idk. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 looking at the specs of this comp, will it be able to run farcry 2, fallout 3, crysis, GTAIV full graphics no problem at all? Yeah, it has some good hardware in there. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterACE14 Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 been looking at some tests done on it, and the results are pretty good. Graphics Card http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/02/23/sapphire-ati-radeon-hd-4870-1gb-toxic/4 Intel i7 http://techreport.com/articles.x/16044/5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcombs_31 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 A programmer is more likely to be able to build a pc, I think jcombs_31's point is. Or not. Idk. Something along those lines... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/153581-is-it-worth-it/#findComment-807725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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