PugJr Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 By having a 1 post in a row with a character limit (Lets say 1000), we can reduce the amounts of "tl:dr" people have for posts. I mean honestly, what percent of people read an entire post that get to like the 3000 character limit? 20%? 30%? I usually read the first paragraph, if its interesting, I read the rest. If its rather boring, I skip it. I'd be shocked if this didn't reduce the "tl:dr". It probably will reduce the amount of intelligence in a post as well. Also, this would not only reduce the "tl:dr" count but also reduce the amount of data phpfreaks has to send through bandwidth and data in their hard disks/RAM! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I don't see what's wrong with long posts. If that's what needs to be done to get the point across so be it; sure some people may not completely read long posts but that's their loss then. I can only see this having negative effects because as you mentioned, it would "reduce the amount of intelligence in a post". Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 I don't see what's wrong with long posts. If that's what needs to be done to get the point across so be it; sure some people may not completely read long posts but that's their loss then. I can only see this having negative effects because as you mentioned, it would "reduce the amount of intelligence in a post". Well, everything has its costs. I guess we need to do a trade off on which is more valuable. We must asses the value of one over the other. For it: A huge reduction in "tl:dr" Think about how much help we would be saving the server owners of PHPFreaks.com! We might be able to reduce bandwidth by like 0-20KB per page refresh!!! It will help people minimize their posts. Maybe we could all speak in like bad speak. Like "Hello how r u doin?". It'll teach people compression in their posts! Some posts still could be summed from 3000 characters to 2000 characters as redundancy, proper English, and what not! Not for it: We might lose some information during the compression. Its like whats better, a .bmp or a .gif? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 really? you're advocating censorship? really? your efforts to mute me are in vain. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 really? you're advocating censorship? really? your efforts to mute me are in vain. Well, it was just a suggestion since a certain somebody said that the PHPFreaks server works alot. (P.S., you aren't the only one this post is targeting. ) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I really don't see your point. People shouldn't be forced to limit their posts, that's like limiting knowledge. No one is forcing you to read anything. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 I really don't see your point. People shouldn't be forced to limit their posts, that's like limiting knowledge. No one is forcing you to read anything. But they are forcing me to scroll down to avoid their post!!! Sometimes people can make a post a screen long (1024), so now I have to put more effort into my scrolling finger, which can eat up to like an entire second! Bam! An entire second from our lives removed. But if we bring that to a larger scale, we aren't just saying myself, but could be one hundred! people! Or a thousand people! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 It's called a page down/up button on your keyboard Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 It's called a page down/up button on your keyboard So thats what those two buttons did! I thought that whole key place was useless. Insert? Never used. Home? Nope. Delete? Delete what? Backspace is for the cool kids. End? Nope, don't even know what that does. Still though, now I have to move my hand all the way over to my keyboard, hit that un-used button and then resume to my mouse. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 change the setting on your wheel to scroll more at a time? Or better yet, whenever you see a tldr post, put the poster on ignore. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 change the setting on your wheel to scroll more at a time? Or better yet, whenever you see a tldr post, put the poster on ignore. But only some of the time I want to avoid the persons post and doing it always will more or less make PHPFreaks be a board of lots of ignored people. How do you ignore someone anyways? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-949968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I really don't see your point. People shouldn't be forced to limit their posts, that's like limiting knowledge. No one is forcing you to read anything. Actually, you're limited by the size of a TEXT field in a MySQL database. That's 65534 bytes, I think. How do you ignore someone anyways? http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=pmprefs Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I really don't see your point. People shouldn't be forced to limit their posts, that's like limiting knowledge. No one is forcing you to read anything. Actually, you're limited by the size of a TEXT field in a MySQL database. That's 65534 bytes, I think. Of course you're gonna be limited by something.. but I was referring to small limits, like the 1000 character limit he was referring to.. Who's going to write a 65534 byte post? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Who's going to write a 65534 byte post? http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=22533 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mchl Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 On my forum I allow some users to use bots to post some statistical data. They fight hard to stay within 64kB limit. And I am NOT extending the field to MEDIUMTEXT even if they pay me Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akitchin Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 this thread is TL;DR. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Who's going to write a 65534 byte post? http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=22533 haha you know, there have actually been several posts I've made that I've gotten the "your message exceeds the character limit" message or however it says it. And it wasn't because of random stuff c/p'd into it... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mchl Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 CV's quote I see above right now: Did I mention they hired a full time midget with photographic memory to store my posts in his head? [...] Somehow, whenever I see this, I read pornographic memory... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Who's going to write a 65534 byte post? http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=22533 haha you know, there have actually been several posts I've made that I've gotten the "your message exceeds the character limit" message or however it says it. And it wasn't because of random stuff c/p'd into it... Hmm... it seems like it's actually restricted to 40000 chars. We could restrict it to 140 like Twitter Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernvox Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Who's going to write a 65534 byte post? http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=22533 haha you know, there have actually been several posts I've made that I've gotten the "your message exceeds the character limit" message or however it says it. And it wasn't because of random stuff c/p'd into it... Hmm... it seems like it's actually restricted to 40000 chars. We could restrict it to 140 like Twitter Twitter? What's that? Are you making fun of turrets? Hey! I'm taking a shit right now! Cool, I'm having a hell of a time getting this suppository up my rectum. Hell, that fart stunk! All under 140 characters! Some of us really need to get out a little more! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Hmm... it seems like it's actually restricted to 40000 chars. We could restrict it to 140 like Twitter Hmm, well that seems a little bit small. I'm thinking 500? Maybe 1000? 140 can't really be used for anything. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keldorn Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The only "tldr" I come across in this forum is in the php help section where those noobs in php help, post their css/html and all their code in one swoop without code tags. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akitchin Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Twitter? What's that? Are you making fun of turrets? Hey! I'm taking a shit right now! Cool, I'm having a hell of a time getting this suppository up my rectum. Hell, that fart stunk! All under 140 characters! Some of us really need to get out a little more! i have a tough time telling if you're joking about twitter, but for the record, it's tourette's. if you can get a suppository so far up that it's in your rectum, you've either got incredibly long fingers or an uncomfortable level of dedication to the task. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernvox Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Twitter? What's that? Are you making fun of turrets? Hey! I'm taking a shit right now! Cool, I'm having a hell of a time getting this suppository up my rectum. Hell, that fart stunk! All under 140 characters! Some of us really need to get out a little more! i have a tough time telling if you're joking about twitter, but for the record, it's tourette's. if you can get a suppository so far up that it's in your rectum, you've either got incredibly long fingers or an uncomfortable level of dedication to the task. Now where did I say finger?? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrg_alpha Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The only "tldr" I come across in this forum is in the php help section where those noobs in php help, post their css/html and all their code in one swoop without code tags. There's definitely posts like that for sure. I can also point to this post as another example of tl;dr... sadly, I did read though.. all of it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/180061-i-have-a-plan-to-reduce-the-tldr-count/#findComment-950742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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