JonnoTheDev Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Has anyone seen this? http://www.out-law.com/page-10510 Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Yeah. Sometimes the EU should just mind their own business. It's particularly stupid because the user can just choose not to save the cookies if they don't want them. Just because I say Set-Cookie: foo=bar doesn't mean the user has to save it to a file on their computer. They are the ones who are ultimately responsible for actively saving it somewhere. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-968034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnoTheDev Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 It's the same old story where a bunch of politicians who have no idea how the technology works stick their noses in and say you must do this, this and this. Exactly the same with file sharing and cutting users off the Internet. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-968035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keldorn Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 There is probably 1,000,000,000 cookies everyday that are set on computers, people often delete their cookies quite frequently, cookies are needed for a website to work properly. Asking a user on each pageload of new site to consent to accepting it just retarded, Secondly There is already option in browser's for the user to ask "If they want to allow this to set cookie" when one received. What dumbass politicians. They dont understand a f'in thing about the internet. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-969178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 They dont understand a f'in thing about the internet. Tell me a single thing they do understand, besides how to make bad matters, worse. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-969310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesta707 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 They dont understand a f'in thing about the internet. Tell me a single thing they do understand, besides how to make bad matters, worse. the most effective way to waste tax money? Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-969321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keldorn Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 the most effective way to waste tax money? And reinvent wheel the large retarded way? This is a feature in Firefox.Oh noe! You wouldn't think browser had that feature? Why are we passing this stupid law. The internet is stateless without cookies you can't tell if the person who took your consent form is the same person when come the next day wihout a cookie, once they clear their cookies there signing the consent form again! This is a browser problem, not a website problem. Browsers already cover this quite well least for those who are smart and know how to use the internet and their browser. Maby they should put an extra BIG button (for the noobs) in the browser informing the user they can block cookies from websites in their browser. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-969464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 They dont understand a f'in thing about the internet. Tell me a single thing they do understand, besides how to make bad matters, worse. the most effective way to waste tax money? Taxing is a bad matter, and by wasting it, it only makes it worse. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-969469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 This is a browser problem, not a website problem. It's not even a browser problem. It's a protocol problem. There is just nothing you can do against it unless you replace it with another protocol, but that's a huge task. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-969595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Meh. This will never go trough anyway. Not everybody in Brussels is as retarded as whoever proposed this. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-970844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnoTheDev Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 It has been approved http://www.out-law.com/page-10510 Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-974062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 A lot of noise about nothing: "An exception exists where the cookie is "strictly necessary" for the provision of a service "explicitly requested" by the user – so cookies can take a user from a product page to a checkout without the need for consent. Other cookies will require prior consent, though." Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-974064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnoTheDev Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 yep. wonder how google will deal with this for analytics code on your website Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-974082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 yep. wonder how google will deal with this for analytics code on your website Sounds easy. Paraphrased ToS of website using GA: "We are collecting statistics about your usage of this site, and doing this requires a cookie. We refuse to offer the service without this." Then you just need to display a visible link to your ToS on every page. You need to ensure that logged out users (if applicable) don't get the GA JS on their first page view, and never on the ToS page. People don't read terms of services anyway. It's not like for instance we (PHP Freaks) are obligated to provide any service to anyone, so we can really just tell people to GTFO if they don't like that we're using GA. Of course PHP Freaks is not based out of Europe so it doesn't matter anyway. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/183398-european-cookies/#findComment-974098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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