colap Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Do you suggest to use any php framework instead of raw/regular php? like zendframework? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 A framework will help you, but don't choose Zend. Try Laravel or Symfony or one of the many others that are better. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
colap Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 What's wrong with using zendframework? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginerjm Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Hmmm... Since an Administrator of this very-helpful forum says not to use Zend, I would heed that advice. Personally I've never even considered a framework at all. My coding is on small discrete projects for my personal use so going thru a learning process with any framework is really counterproductive for me. What kind of workload do you plan on supporting? Will the 'learning process' be worth the time to you? I think that should be your first consideration. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 4 hours ago, ginerjm said: Hmmm... Since an Administrator of this very-helpful forum says not to use Zend, I would heed that advice. Hey now, being an admin doesn't mean I'm infallible. I just means I have the keys to the kingdom. I'm a normal PHP developer like just about everyone else here. I suggest avoiding Zend because it's over-engineered, and that makes it complicated and bloated. The PHP industry has moved towards simpler frameworks that don't try to do everything you need out of the box. Routing, MVC, and database abstraction are the main focus, and the rest is about providing a foundation to build the application from. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barand Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, requinix said: Hey now, being an admin doesn't mean I'm infallible. I just means I have the keys to the kingdom. I'm a normal PHP developer like just about everyone else here. All our illusions shattered with a single post. ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Just now, Barand said: All our illusions shattered with a single post. ? Speaking of infallible, I accidentally left off a 't' from "I just means". Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barand Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 OMG it's true! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginerjm Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 So you dropped a letter. At least you use punctuation properly and more importantly - CAPS!! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, ginerjm said: So you dropped a letter. At least you use punctuation properly and more importantly - CAPS!! lol tru Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicken Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I've become fond of Symfony over the last few years. I find it relatively simple to get started with, yet still highly customizable/usable when you start wanting to do advanced stuff. I haven't given Laravel a shot since a few years ago, but back then I wasn't a huge fan of it then. I've also never personally used Zend, but have had to debug/modify some applications that did use it and it's a nightmare. I'm with requinix, avoid it. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotionCommotion Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 While much less encompassing that Symfony/etc, you might want to give Slim a try. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmola Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I'm with Kicken. Laravel has a lot of heat, but I'm partial to Symfony. Also in regards to NotionCommotion's comment, the focus of Symfony's recent release was adding in options to reduce the initial footprint of the framework and make it more ala-cart. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/307690-do-you-suggest-to-use-any-php-framework-instead-of-rawregular-php/#findComment-1560928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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