xcoderx Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 just day before my lappy hdd broke any idea how did this happen? i never did drop it anywhere but it out of nowhere started to make some noice and when i took it for repair they said it was broken so anyways i bought 160gb hdd and also expanded my ram to 2 gb but im still wondering how did it break i dismentaled the entire hdd lol as i nvere saw what was inside it and i found some broken part in it. yes the last thing i did on my lappy was use the app called virtual dj, is it possible that a software was responsible fo my hdd damage? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
premiso Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Well the broken parts, could have been from you opening it. As without the proper tools the discs can easily be broken. If the parts did break on their own, chances are it was a harddrive issue and you should have returned it (if it was still under warranty) for a replacement. But since opening the case you voided that. So yea, best bet is either someone dropped it when you were not looking, you just got a lemon harddrive or the Underpant Gnomes decided that you had some underpants hidden on your harddrive and wanted to try and get it out, but failed. is it possible that a software was responsible fo my hdd damage? I highly doubt it unless the software some how messed with the power being sent to the harddrive and caused it to spin sooo fast that the disks broke. But I have never heard of or seen that happen. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Which kind of HDD was it? IDE or SATA. I ask because IDE have an RPM (rotations per minute) rate. And the typical RPM for an IDE HDD is 7,200. So you could just imagine the liabilities involved there. Just bumping your laptop the wrong way could essentially "break" something. Seeing as how that's really GD fast, I'd say that spinning disc has enough momentum to break anything. Even it is wasn't 7200 RPM it would have been at least 5400.. which is still, beyond human abilities. So that would be your answer assuming your HDD was IDE. If it was SATA then perhaps some dust got in there or the drive was faulty to begin with. I can't exactly pull an explanation for something breaking in an SATA drive out of my ass. That's pretty odd. Those are solid state drives. Much like a USB Flash drive. So just imagine ways in which a flash drive could tear up and that's probably what happened to your SATA Hard drive (assuming it was SATA) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keldorn Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 just day before my lappy hdd broke any idea how did this happen? i never did drop it anywhere but it out of nowhere started to make some noice and when i took it for repair they said it was broken so anyways i bought 160gb hdd and also expanded my ram to 2 gb but im still wondering how did it break i dismentaled the entire hdd lol as i nvere saw what was inside it and i found some broken part in it. yes the last thing i did on my lappy was use the app called virtual dj, is it possible that a software was responsible fo my hdd damage? Parse Error: Undefined word 'fo' Parse Error: Undefined word 'dismentaled' Parse Error: Undefined word 'lappy' Parse Error: Undefined word 'nvere' Parse Error: Undefined word 'im' Parse Error: wrong context 'i', Assuming 'I' Parse Error: wrong context 'i', Assuming 'I' Parse Error: wrong context 'i', Assuming 'I' Parse Error: wrong context 'i', Assuming 'I' Parse Error: wrong context 'i', Assuming 'I' Parse Error: wrong context 'just', Assuming 'Just' Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Which kind of HDD was it? IDE or SATA. I ask because IDE have an RPM (rotations per minute) rate. And the typical RPM for an IDE HDD is 7,200. So you could just imagine the liabilities involved there. Just bumping your laptop the wrong way could essentially "break" something. Seeing as how that's really GD fast, I'd say that spinning disc has enough momentum to break anything. Even it is wasn't 7200 RPM it would have been at least 5400.. which is still, beyond human abilities. So that would be your answer assuming your HDD was IDE. If it was SATA then perhaps some dust got in there or the drive was faulty to begin with. I can't exactly pull an explanation for something breaking in an SATA drive out of my ass. That's pretty odd. Those are solid state drives. Much like a USB Flash drive. So just imagine ways in which a flash drive could tear up and that's probably what happened to your SATA Hard drive (assuming it was SATA) SATA (Serial Advanced Technology Attachment) is the interface, you're thinking of SSD - Solid State Disk. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 SATA (Serial Advanced Technology Attachment) is the interface, you're thinking of SSD - Solid State Disk. Hmm.. Don't know why I was under the impression SATAs didn't spin. But regardless, since they both spin now....consider what I said to begin with in the IDE paragraph. Just bumping your laptop the wrong way could essentially "break" something. Seeing as how that's really GD fast, I'd say that spinning disc has enough momentum to break anything Lesson of the day: Solid State Discs FTW! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keldorn Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Not sure about the Harddrives in laptops, but the ones in Desktop computers will break if you jerk them the wrong way. I had the misfortune of finding this out the hard way while installing mine, I dropped it only about 3 feet onto the carpet, still was toast though. After that is just made a clicking noise and wouldn't work. Had to order a new one. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 And ironically on the contrary .... dropping a hard drive can sometimes fix them as I've found out from experience... knocking the heads back into place. [ot]Much like the same concept I had with the last 2 seizures I had. The first one dislocated my shoulder leaving it immobile for a 2 months until I had the next seizure which "fixed" it[/ot] Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mchl Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Modern (magnetic) hard drives for mobile devices have built in accelerometer. It detects whenever the disk is suddenly moved (i.e. dropped, bumped, jerked etc.) and moves headers to a safe position where they will not hit disk surface. I had my portable hdd falling to the floor while running (not once) and it still works. Don't try it with your average 3.5" internal HDD though As to why OP's disk has broken: shit happens. These devices have large MTBF values, but remember that M in it stands for 'mean' (a.k.a. 'average'). This means most of them do not fail until they're discarded by end user, but a few of them fail within very short time from purchase. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynew Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 The loud noise part has me thinking it was more of a fan problem. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcoderx Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 no idea if it was sata or what it was i do not got much knowledge on hardware but after i opened the broken hdd i inside found 2 small disks. some rotator and also a very powerful magnet. and as per my knowledge nobody actually touches it and its always in same place still so it was really strange that it broke. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-H Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keldorn Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Very Cool. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mchl Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Still amazes me how such positioning precision can be achieved with such a simple (construction wise) device. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcoderx Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 lol really how much data that small damn thing stores lol heard it sealed with compressed air Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-971879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Your hdd broke because your pr0n collection was getting too freaky so it committed suicide. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-972031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcoderx Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 pmpl bro i do not got porn on my system hehehe Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-972036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 yeah, not any more...cuz it broke, lol. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-972057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
premiso Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Your hdd broke because your pr0n collection was getting too freaky so it committed suicide. Lol reminds of that episode of South Park where the internet goes out and everyone freaks. So once it gets fixed they decide that you should only look up porn once a day and twice at the most. Good episode. The bast part, all that needed to be done was reset the router lol! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-972190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcoderx Posted December 6, 2009 Author Share Posted December 6, 2009 ah i love south park lol that eric cartman. sir step out the car please and oh my god they killed kenny Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/184025-how-ad-why-did-my-hdd-break/#findComment-972248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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