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#21 Ninjakreborn

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 09:28 PM

So should I, or should I not work up some picutre, right now I had a lance, and i was putting clouds throughout the background, and carefully working with the photo, I was going to do the freelancebusinessman thing in it, or should I jsut find a good text logo, and look around some, what do you think?

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 11:09 PM

... what do you think?


Personally, I think you should re-read my post and follow my advice.
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Posted 30 September 2006 - 12:54 AM

wow, you just don't get it do you?  Just running around in circles completely lost.  Do comprehend anything that people keep telling you in numerous threads?  You need to slow down and stop typing, because you just keep rambling.

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 01:12 AM

I have come up with a logo idea, I am associating my name with pictures, something simple, something that can help them remember my name, I will show it later in another post, after I get the first design stages up for my site.

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 02:38 AM

THanks andy, and everyone else for the advice.  I finally tried, I am more creative than I thought, during this process I learnt so much about photoshop.  even if this logo isn't good I can recreate another one off another idea, of try agian, this has taught me so much.
1. I am more creative than I thought
2. I just need time for my creativity to kick in
3. I learnt a lot about photoshop blending stuff
4. I learnt about free transform, and transform selection and how different things work different.

I may never be a full graphic designer, but I know now, after some work, patience, and trying I can atleast do stuff like logo's for clients, banners, layouts, buttons, I definitely have an idea for my buttons on this site, I just have to get better.
What do you think of this logo, should I add a background color, is there anything else I can do to it, to make it look better, or should I scrap it and try again.

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 03:11 AM

out of curiosity, have you really studied other logos? there is a huge difference between a logo and a banner image. what you're showing couldn't be scaled down to use in letterhead or anything like that well at all. as andy tried to mention, your logo is your trademark in some respects. it goes back to what i said earlier. is that image really what you want to use over and over as your trademark to other companies? if not, you really need to revisit it. think about logos for companies like Pepsi, AOL, Apple, BMW, VolksWagon, and the list goes on and on. most of those, you could see as a 20x20 pixel image and still know exactly what company it is. that is the kind of idea you want to hit for your logo. something that you could size down to be the favicon of your site, even. no, it doesn't have to be square or be quite that flexible, but at least a part of it should be. something that i was told about one of my first banners i posted on here for critique, i think applies to this image you've posted... it went something like: "that looks like a hey, look! i just pirated photoshop and look at all these filters amature-esque banner... it just really doesn't feel like a professional logo at all to me. the text doesn't appear to be part of the image, and the border and separated slogan cheapens it somewhat. on something as important as a logo, i'd definitely go with andy on this one and recommend you get a quote on something professional.
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#27 Ninjakreborn

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 03:18 AM

I might for this one logo, I will see about it, but atleast I learnt something about photoshop, I may try a few more logo's here and there and see if I can come up with something.

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 01:12 PM

Logos are meant to be distinctive and fairly concise in size. Generally, a good logo can be recognized only by shape if shown in black & white.

A quick example I just made in photoshop:

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.. and after applying a filter:

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As you can see, they're fairly straight forward and don't have much too them. I find it's good to keep a logo simple.
(You can use them if you want.)

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 02:09 PM

I wouldn't consider them logo's....

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 02:15 PM

I wouldn't consider them logo's....


@ataria ... so, constructively, give examples of what you do consider to be logos.  That'll help this thread.
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Posted 30 September 2006 - 02:42 PM

ok, i may be shooting myself in the foot here because i'm horrid at graphic design, too, but why not go for something utterly simple to start with? you can always filter and adjust til your heart's content, but you really need to have a theme in mind first. here's something really simple i came up with using a globe. i'm not really too happy with the font choice, but then again, all i'm trying to do is get the idea of simplicity across... check out the attachment. i would even recommend you try to find an acceptable abbreviation to use in your logo instead of your full "Freelance Businessman." maybe something like FBM or such would work?

of course, if you were to use something similar to this, you'd want to colorize it and mod it to fit into a web design, but as you can see, it wouldn't make too bad of a letterhead, either ;)

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 03:35 PM

I wouldn't consider them logo's....

I wouldn't consider those either, I was just demonstrating an example of the simplicity that should be involved in a logo.

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 04:39 PM

I was wondering, I built that logo, I did some work with it, I am going to learn how to burn the businessman word into the leather of the briefcase, and give the font in the sword an engraved affect.  It might be a beginner photoshop logo.  I can always build another one later, I just want one for my website, I am rewriting all the content on my new website, so I am putting in there, studying photoshop/graphic design, I will put I am not that good at it, so I will do it for a cheaper price until I get better, that will allow me to get some experience doing logo's for awhile, I might even do graphic design itself for free, alongw ith my other stuff until I get better.  The designing a layout, I think I have gotten good enough with that, to do a layout in photoshop, I am going to try some ideas later, right now I want to build a logo.  I want really opinions on this, I am no matter what building more logo's.  I am going to build quite a few more, some graphic, some text only, I am learning photoshop, but I am only right now trying to get a good logo for me.  Not an expert, graphic designer logo.  But something I can be proud of at my current photoshop/graphic design skill level, it doesn't have to be a master artists logo, I also kept reading what you people said about keeping it simple, so I did, for this one, I am going to work on some more logo's but I really like this one, even after building more, unless I Find out more that I like, I might end up keeping this one?  What do you think, you asked me about letterheads and everything else, I am goign to see what this looks like later changed over to black and white, but since I Created it and not anotehr graphic designer, I feel gooda bout it, my other logo wasn't that great, but another developer did it, he was just learning, and now I am just learning I want something good, atleast until I get my skills better and redesign my site again, in 6-7 months to a year when I am confident in some of my non-programming related abilities.

I am still doing more with this logo in case if I decide to use it, like the burnt affect into the leather as someone from here  mentioned earlier.  and the engraved affect into the sword, as I thought up earlier.  Also if I can come up with a good color for the bottom bar, I am going to fill that in, and change the text afffect there, and for the bottom text, I am deciding on a good font for it.  I might not use it, I might come up with something I like better, that'smore ismple, but if not I have something I think I can be happy with, I just want some advice on it, if it totally sucks ass, what can I do to make it better.  I have seen some logo's that use similar play on words, put to a picture background, and melded into the scene, it's not done yet, it's just the first draft where I got the picture of the lance head, and the briefcase, and put them where i wanted them, and created the backbone(so to speak) for the logo.  WIth what I have done there, I had learnt a lot, 10 times more than I previously knew,

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 04:56 PM

I don't think there's anything more we can teach you about logos.
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Posted 30 September 2006 - 04:58 PM

being blunt again (i seem to be doing that a lot recently): i don't think it will cut it at all for bringing customers in. it's not professional. if you're looking to get a professional presence, use a professional logo. the quote i mentioned above (the look-at-all-these-filters one) still applies to this version. the glow on the text cheapens the effect, and the "sword" or "lance" or whatever it is really looks funny since it's not even clear what the object is. also, typically, your personal title (Web Designer/Coder/Programmer) isn't going to be part of your logo itself. often, even your slogan isn't part of your logo itself. it really takes up unnecessary space. there are a ton of useful suggestions mentioned above that it seems you have ignored. really thoroughly read all the posts and see where your proposed logo doesn't fall into those suggestions, and i think you'll see what you can work on.
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Posted 30 September 2006 - 05:29 PM

So then a banner, and a logo are 2 totally different things.
I am starting to see that part now, I want both a banner, and logo for my site, but the logo wouldn't be the banner.  The logo would be hte actual name, or image, that I consider the logo, adn it should be something simple, most of the time something font only, or a play on words, something.  So I am going to create a simple logo, adn try to keep it simple, I am also going to create a banner, taht is more advanced, that has my 2 lines
making websites better one pixel at a time, and web designer/coder/programming

I will try to keep the slogans out of the logo, when I have the logo, I will be putting it up in the top left hand corner, sort of where phpfreaks logo is on there general banner.  Then my banner, is going to be 100% width, from one side of the page to another, something where I can somewhere put my 2 slogans, or my slogan, and title.  So the logo itself I am going to try and keep simple, am I starting to understand everything correctly???

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 05:37 PM

How about dropping the whole 'freelance bussinessman' name.

Personally I've found the name appalling since I read it. I didn't want to bring it up, but if you're going to invest time in designing a logo, I'd suggest to change your 'company' name first. I studied marketing for a short period of time, and I know a thing or two about external communication and brand names. That doesn't exactly make me an expert, but I can assure you this brand name is not going to attract customers.

Sorry if that rocks your world, it's just my opinion, you don't HAVE to do anything with it.

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 06:29 PM

@448191: totally agree with you there about the name thing. it does sound a little smug.

@frozen: as examples of logos, you did a good job and point well made

@ataria: if you want to dismiss someones effort to help, fine - but would be good to see what you can bring to the table

@businessssman: I cannot believe you are still not listening to people, after all the advice given. in answer to your other thread - "should I quit?" - my answer is now a definite yes, unless you can show some acknowledgment and appreciation for the help you are getting. you didn't even acknowledge the logos that frozen put up, as he obviously took out the time to help.
your waffle and lack of acknowledgment is getting very tiresome now.
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Posted 30 September 2006 - 06:53 PM

  I really do thank you all for the help.  I have been accepting advice, it's just I have so many ideas, I decided to come up with a theme, someone told me when you build a website create a general theme, and base everything including the logo around that theme.

  As far as freelance businessman, there is no way I would ever change from that, that name is permanent.  As for the logo's both of them put up, thank you, I really appreciate the help, it gave me something to look at, I know what I am going to do for a logo.

  Right now, I have spent almost 48 hours(except sleeping), looking at other websites and have an idea, for a general theme.  I have definitely picked the theme, I am slowly taking my time to learn how to do what I want to do in photoshop.  Right now, my actual website itself is going to have a white background.

  This is a website this time I am building totally from scratch, if it's not 100% perfect at the end where everyone likes it, atleast I know I did my best, and this is going to be taking almost everything, all of you said under consideration while still keeping my own ideas at hand.  I know how to design, I know how to do logo's I have built them before, and layouts, and clients were happy.  At this time I think most of it was I was trying to learn to fast, instead of keeping it simple, and I was being too picky for something I wanted.

  I have decided to use a general approach from now on, when building any website.  based on the intended audience, I am going to try to come up with a general theme, and color scheme and base everything I am doing around that theme.

  As for my website, I have decided on a theme, and I know now I am going to use that theme, I have decided on that.  I am using a general theme, I am using roughly 2 main colors for my website, aside from something I might come up with for form styling, lists, ex-cetera.

  My 2 main colors are white, and a mixture color of some form of brown.  The 2nd color is going to be some type of wood related gradient that I am going to create, as a process to make it look as good, and professional, and realistic as possible.  This white is going to be the general background color for the website, the 2nd gradient color is going to be the background color for the left navigation, top banner/logo area, and bottom navigation.  I am still creating a color idea for the basic content div in the middle.  I might also have a basic series of boxes below the left nav, for general information, and some on the right side of the content div, that will have some otehr information I decide to put.  Like a quick list for my portfolio, and some of my general skills, or services.

  For the banner, it's going to be background colored with that 2nd gradient I spoke of, the logo is going to be something as a lot of people here offered advice on, something simple.  Something primarily text, that can easily be pulled out and used for various things, yet is easy to remember.  Not something too complicated, but something I am however going to put some thought, time and effort into.  I might even make a few ideas, of various font's and font positioning, and find one that I end up liking the most.  I do know one main feature of the logo itself is definitely going to be colored so it looks like it's in some way burnt into the background wood, to look as if the text had been burnt there, but still heavily readable and definable to the human eye.

  Other than the logo, there will be an area on my banner, along the bottom line, I will have my 2 catch phrases.
"Making websites better 1 pixel at a time"
"Web designer/coder/programming";
those will be part of the banner itself, at the bottom, right along the bottom line.

  That is all that will be for the banner, omst of it will be that wooden gradient, maybe a search area at the top right, for something, just to take up some room, not sure yet.

  As for the left nav, it's going to have a background of the same 2nd gradient wooden texture.  For the navigation links, they are going to start off as a standard color, other than black.  Something that looks good with the wooden color, stands out well, but isn't black or brown in nature.  The hover for that imaged link, or text link is going to be something that looks like it goes from being it's original color, to being burnt into the wood behind it, sort of like the logo, with just a different affect.

  The navigation may be done in text, or possibly an image, depending on which one is going to give me the effect of it looking as if it is getting burnt into the background.

  The bottom navigation area is going to have a few of my basic links, like privacy policy, it's going to possibly have the same affect as the left nav.

  The middle content area, and the other 3 boxes(1 box below the left nav, for validation links(yes I want those), 1 box on the right side of the middle content, with a quick portfolio area, and 1 box below that, which will have either a quick list of services/skills, or some of my stronger, strong points.  The background colors for those I am still deciding on.

  This is what I have finally decided on, my own ideas, my own layouts, after looking throughout various sites, brainstorming for days, sorry for all the depression sounding stuff, it allways happens when I am brainstorming, but it got me through the process.  It wsa just harder for me, for my own website, because I have something specific I want.  Every word of advice offered on here was taken into account, and the advice was heavily headed, I appreciated it a lot. 

  As for general ideas, my name has to stay, I am definitely keeping my ethics page, but rewriting them.  I am removing a lot of the useless, and duplicate pages.  I am rewriting all the page content entirely, and adding a few pages, including doing some extra new work with the portfolio, there is a lot I want to do with the site, but the general ideas are done.

  Now I have to make the banner, make the logo like I want with the affect I want, make the text above the line, the create the idea for the layout in photoshop, and style the rollover links(which I will probably do in css instead of javascript.) once all of that is done I can start creating all my content, then coding the Xhtml/css after that.

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 09:12 PM

  Look, I have worked up some of the graphics in photoshop, and created a rough cut, 2 second coded version of part of the layout, just to show you a general idea for the banner, the logo area at the top left.  The left navigation, the rollover affect with just 1 image.

  Some of the images themselves are still needing worked on, the banner, at the top, has an area that looks wierd, and the left nav, above the top, has another area that looks wierd, the rollover images aren't aligned properly, but I just wanted to give you an idea of the direction I was heading to get advice if this is a good general idea.

  So again please understand in general, that this is not even close to what will be on my website, I just want to find out, if this idea itself is even substantial, or even worth continuing to pursue.  I liked my ideas, I liked where this is going.  Any advice would help, I am not done even close with the graphic design, and especially the coding, but for now, I set up something quick, something in like 2 seconds to get general directional advice.

  As far as the graphic design, I want the top of the banner to look a little more like the rest of it.
As for the left nav, I am wanting to get the top better blended with the banner.

Here are the photoshop settings I ended up going with for this.

Banner Background
create new, any size.
Select all
fill background color with
663300
texture-filter-noise-add noise (monochromatic, gaussian, 67 for the amount)

filter-blur-motion blur (90 degrees, and blur of 24 pixels


Logo
old english text-
blending options:
drop shadow – opacity 0
inner shadow- opacity 100


Slogans
Times new roman
size 30


Left Navigation Background
create new, any size.
Select all
fill background color with
663300
texture-filter-noise-add noise (monochromatic, gaussian, 67 for the amount)

filter-blur-motion blur (90 degrees, and blur of 24 pixels


Those are just some notes I took while creating it, so I could remember what I did, to get what affects.   Below is the url

http://www.freelance...ssman.com/temp/

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