anatak Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hello,this is just something that I was thinking about for some time now.Would it be possible to create a pay phpfreaks forum ?Something like the freelancing forum where you could post problems that you pay to get resolved ?For example I would like to have a php function or object that generates a location selector.the dropdowns should be responsive by javascript and the content of the dropdowns is pulled out of a database using php (best way i could think of)I know that if I ask for this I will get my answer in the end.BUT say I am in a hurry and would like to get this solved fast and willing to pay for this.I don't realy want to post such a thing in the freelance forum as it is not a real job.but I would like phpfreaks to benefit from this.Here is what I would like to seea forum where you can post a problem but where only the creator and the php approved members can reply.this forum should be readable for alla paying mechanism upfront or afterwards (I would not mind using paypall and paying upfront a fixed amount of money)It is just an idea and I can as easily find reasons not to do this as I can find reasons well to do this.EDITI was of course forgetting to say THANKS for the exellent site you maintainkind regardsanatak Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 There is already a freelancing forum ;) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatak Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 yes I know as I wrote here[quote]this is just something that I was thinking about for some time now.Would it be possible to create a pay phpfreaks forum ?Something like the freelancing forum where you could post problems that you pay to get resolved ?[/quote]but the idea was to give money to phpfreaks not to freelancers. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 i actually think that (in some form) it's a good idea. sometimes i do think the freelance forum can get a little cluttered - a single forum for paid/uppaid, for hire/wanted - and many posts don't state paid/unpaid in the topic title as the guidelines state.managing the payments is probably its downfall. the thing with the freelance forum at the moment is that it lets coders/clients sort out the payments between themselves meaning phpfreaks doesnt get involved in any mess that maybe involved.there's also the case of vetting things that go in there. there are tonnes of posts in php help forum that are self-class as 'urgent', so I could see plenty of people posting in this new area stuff that should go in php help with a donation offer of $1 or something. i guess it could work as a 'subscription' forum where you'd need to have an account in credit to post there, but then there's the case of value for money - would the admins/mods/php recommended go out of their way to help any more than the normal php help forum? i.e, would a problem get solved any quicker?like i say, i dont think it's a bad idea and definitely (if it COULD be implemented properly) a nice way of phpfreaks getting donations.cheersMark Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cep Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 As long as the place doesn't turn into experts exchange ill be happy. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I don't like that idea. It ruins the idea about having a site where you can get free help. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatak Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 daniel0 that is indeed the biggest drawback.The risk is that the most experienced phpfreaks helpers will concentrate too much on the paying forum.It was just an ideaI mean phpfreaks works fantastic as it is. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Yeah, but I can of course not speak on behalf of the admins. If they think it is a good idea then they can just do it, but I don't think that. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 So let me get this straight:You want a board where the questions answered in that board will benefit the community in terms of money.... but not the person answering the questions? Who in their right mind is going to do that? No offense, but if you're not giving the helper any incentive to do the work, you're not going to gain much in terms of getting things done. The only way I can see this working is if the developer gets a cut as well.And I can pretty much tell you that this isn't going to happen. All of these things end up in some kind of legal battle where someone doesn't pay or someone doesn't get the exact answer that they want or IF the developers are getting a cut and more than one developer responds... who gets the money? Besides, that's not what the "PHPFreaks Recommended" group was created for. There are plenty of other well deserving members of that title on these boards, but they either don't post enough or haven't been around long enough to be recognized.As someone else said, I'm not about to turn this place into Experts Exchange. I suggest if you have an issue like that, post it in freelancing or go to rentacoder. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsidian Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 here's my take on it:1. figure what you're willing to pay for it2. post in the freelancing forum for 80% of what you're willing to pay3. when the job gets done, take the additional 20% and donate it to phpfreaks :D Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I like that quite a bit more myself. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsidian Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 [quote author=ober link=topic=111985.msg454347#msg454347 date=1161264886]I like that quite a bit more myself.[/quote]honestly, you'll probably get more people willing to take on the project, too. we have enough people who want to help out the community that if you posted you were putting money towards the site with the completion of your project, there would be people ready to jump on board. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatak Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 well it was just an Idea but I guess the way obsidian describes it is the easiest and simplest way.Why didn't I think about that myself I am sorry to started this discussion.me hits myself hmm I am realy stupid I guess.I think someone mentioned a donate button in all the threads but I don't see it.I only know the link in the left navigation menuanatak Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 The donation button existed in the old boards. We haven't added it back in to SMF. I guess I should work on that.And don't be sorry for starting the discussion. It's not a horrible idea, there are just things we would like to try and avoid. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsidian Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 [quote author=ober link=topic=111985.msg454432#msg454432 date=1161270149]And don't be sorry for starting the discussion. It's not a horrible idea, there are just things we would like to try and avoid.[/quote]that's exactly the point of this forum, too ;)as ober said, please don't feel sorry for starting the discussion. i can almost guarantee you that on most sites, for every suggestion that is implemented, there are 20 more that are shot down :P Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 and even the ideas that DON'T take off give other people ideas for ideas that do... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 I'd say obsidian's guess is probably accurate for here too. ;) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenway Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Not that I can speak for the mods/admins, but none of us are here to make money... we just want to lend a helping hand. That being said, we'd all like to see phpfreaks.com have enough funds to stay up & running, since nothing is every free. But I don't think "paid support" is the right approach. Why don't we compromise -- we'll keep helping everyone out of the kindness of our hearts, and you simply donate money to the site? They don't have to happen simultaneously. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Pssh... I'm here for the money. Admins make $32.75/hr + bonuses and benefits. And we're given flying pigs for transportation to and from work. Booya.;)EDIT: On a side note, there has been some new code added to the site that states that if you don't donate within the next 3.5 days, your account will be terminated and we'll request back-pay for the bandwidth you've eaten up on this site. And you probably also missed the fact in the TOS that said we constantly download and upload large files in the background while you surf the forums. So... that's gonna be a hefty bill.EDIT2: Can anyone else tell I'm on a sugar high? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsidian Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 @ober: wow... what more can i say? ;) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 *puts down the Mountain Dew*I should deal with sugar more often to even out the lows and highs. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenway Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 [i]Whoa, that's a good squishy.[/i] ;-) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 dammit. well i think i know who found my secret stash... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-111592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phpfreak Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 [quote author=ober link=topic=111985.msg454518#msg454518 date=1161277697]Pssh... I'm here for the money. Admins make $32.75/hr + bonuses and benefits. And we're given flying pigs for transportation to and from work. Booya.;)EDIT: On a side note, there has been some new code added to the site that states that if you don't donate within the next 3.5 days, your account will be terminated and we'll request back-pay for the bandwidth you've eaten up on this site. And you probably also missed the fact in the TOS that said we constantly download and upload large files in the background while you surf the forums. So... that's gonna be a hefty bill.EDIT2: Can anyone else tell I'm on a sugar high?[/quote]sugar high my ass, sounds like you drank a 24 pack of Red Bull! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-112009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akitchin Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 hey ober - as of now, i find myself looking for a donate link in order to shoot some paypal funds over to "phpfreaks," (ie. eric, the one-man hosting machine) and can't find one without seeking out that donation thread. on that topic, perhaps we can add a donation link to those three that appear next to one's avatar? right beneath where you guys added the "return to main page" link. i guess if they have their profile info minimized they won't see it, but it's on by default right? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/24412-phpfreaks-professional/#findComment-112118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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