f1r3fl3x Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Hey, i've covered all the basics in PHP OOP. I know the syntax and what it's capable of. Now i need some books to read about creating complex OOP Scripts. If you can recommend something it'll be great. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 OOP has (almost) nothing to do with syntax. It's a paradigm, so it's more about the style you program in, the way you think when coding. I'm sorry to say it, but if you've just learned PHP's syntax for OOP related concepts, you haven't learned OOP. If you'd like a book I would recommend Design Patterns by Gamma et al. It's pretty much a classic. If you want a more PHP oriented book you can read PHP Objects, Patterns, and Practice by Zandstra. It doesn't really matter that it's in PHP though. The concepts are universally applicable to any language that supports object oriented features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFilmGod Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 All though Daniel0 is correct - PHP OOP doesn't satisfy traditional and strict coding patterns that many prgrammers are expecting when they move over from C or java. PHP was always intended to be more procedural. OOP was thrown in later in the versions and although OOP's support has imensely grown in the recent years, there is still a lot of improvement. Don't forget that OOP does not outperform procedural code. The upside to OOP is productivity. Your coding time will decrease by ten fold if you take a few extra steps and code in OOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Advanced POOP lol..I had to do it but yeah.. If you want to learn.....OOP or Advanced OOP I would suggest digging into some Java. Buy you a good book, get you a good compiler. I learned with BlueJ.. probably not the best in the world. I'm sure a good percentage of people will lean on NetBeans or something I've never tried it. But that's how I learned OOP. I don't even use Java .. at all, but I sure as hell know what OOP is I'll tell you that. I even coded in PHP way before I used Java. I didn't even know what OOP was until I took that Java course at college. public static void main....it's burned in my brain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Advanced POOP lol..I had to do it but yeah.. If you want to learn.....OOP or Advanced OOP I would suggest digging into some Java. Buy you a good book, get you a good compiler. I learned with BlueJ.. probably not the best in the world. I'm sure a good percentage of people will lean on NetBeans or something I've never tried it. But that's how I learned OOP. I don't even use Java .. at all, but I sure as hell know what OOP is I'll tell you that. I even coded in PHP way before I used Java. I didn't even know what OOP was until I took that Java course at college. public static void main....it's burned in my brain There's also the Microsoft (*gasp* "They're evil!") route. Their free IDE - Web Developer Express 2008 comes with a built-in SQL server. C# is a pretty nice language (at least, from what I've experienced so far), and is entirely OOP as well. It's pretty much Microsoft's answer to Java (even though they're addressing the problem from opposite ends...go figure), and is a very marketable skill to have in my area of the world. And, since it's apparent that I like parentheses, here are a few more: (())(())(())(())(())(()) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 You don't need to go the MS route to use C#. Theres a pretty good implementation kicking around for *nix called Mono. Though you will (for a career boost) want to learn the Windows API's as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrg_alpha Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 A good book I looked through on a few occasions with regards to learning OOP is the Head First: Design Patterns. It's geared towards java, but does a great job at teaching the principals of OOP as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 public static void main....it's burned in my brain Did you learn that in your Java course? Does the Java compiler return what ever is returned by the entry point to what ever executed it? If so, then shouldn't it be int? (Just being picky... And curious if Java does that or not.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Does the Java compiler return what ever is returned by the entry point to what ever executed it? uh.....what!! that didn't make any gotdamned sense.. that's just the main method...you have to have one...it's like the constructor Class PooP { public static void main(String args[]) { //I forgot all the java functions } } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Does the Java compiler return what ever is returned by the entry point to what ever executed it? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 that's just the main method...you have to have one...it's like the constructor Yeah, I know. Traditionally programs return a numeric value to what ever invoked them. 0 is consider success, and anything else is failure. Does the Java compiler return what ever is returned by the entry point to what ever executed it? No. Oh.... *Done thread jacking now * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1r3fl3x Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 I think many of you miunderstood me (becouse my english is bad, sorry) . No matter. I've found what i needed. 10x to all of you for the replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roopurt18 Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 A good book I looked through on a few occasions with regards to learning OOP is the Head First: Design Patterns. It's geared towards java, but does a great job at teaching the principals of OOP as well. I second this. Great content and easy to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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