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#1 phpfreak

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 06:17 PM

For the past day or two, the forums have been offline. We can thank the splendid Invision Power Board team for their outstanding efforts in developing this POS forum that we're stuck with which has so many problems its not funny.

I'm about tempted to get us a different forum software. If anyone has experience with something and you recommend it, let us know. We have to be able to port our existing IPB database to it though, so a converter script for IPB 2.1 has to be avaiable.

Lets talk about it.


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#2 .josh

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 06:30 PM

omg where have the forums been i've had withdrawals
Did I help you? Feeling generous? Buy me lunch! 
Please, take the time and do some research and find out how much it would have cost you to get your help from a decent paid-for source. A "roll-of-the-dice" freelancer will charge you $5-$15/hr. A decent entry level freelancer will charge you around $15-30/hr. A professional will charge you anywhere from $50-$100/hr. An agency will charge anywhere from $100-$250/hr. Think about all this when soliciting for help here. Think about how much money you are making from the work you are asking for help on. No, we do not expect you to pay for the help given here, but donating a few bucks is a fraction of the cost of what you would have paid, shows your appreciation, helps motivate people to keep offering help without the pricetag, and helps make this a higher quality free-help community :)

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 06:34 PM

I apologize, or should I? Invision Power Board has more issues than a chocolate chip cookie has chocolate chips, I swear it!

For some stupid reason, the template cache got corrupted and when I was logged in as Admin using the cookie feature it didn't affect me, but yet it affected others, including people who have not logged in yet.

Some developer of a piece of commercial software that we use needs his ass whooped.


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#4 .josh

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 06:39 PM

How come you moved away from PHPBB? I think that..mmm...chocolate chip cookies...
Did I help you? Feeling generous? Buy me lunch! 
Please, take the time and do some research and find out how much it would have cost you to get your help from a decent paid-for source. A "roll-of-the-dice" freelancer will charge you $5-$15/hr. A decent entry level freelancer will charge you around $15-30/hr. A professional will charge you anywhere from $50-$100/hr. An agency will charge anywhere from $100-$250/hr. Think about all this when soliciting for help here. Think about how much money you are making from the work you are asking for help on. No, we do not expect you to pay for the help given here, but donating a few bucks is a fraction of the cost of what you would have paid, shows your appreciation, helps motivate people to keep offering help without the pricetag, and helps make this a higher quality free-help community :)

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 06:59 PM

[!--quoteo(post=373285:date=May 12 2006, 02:39 PM:name=Crayon Violent)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Crayon Violent @ May 12 2006, 02:39 PM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
How come you moved away from PHPBB? I think that..mmm...chocolate chip cookies...
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Because new PHPBB exploits come out every day. Its one of the worse security holes on the internet, and we know this from our [a href=\"http://www.webhostfreaks.com\" target=\"_blank\"]Hosting Company[/a]


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#6 Carth

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 07:29 PM

Always thought of vBulletin as the best tbh.

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 08:11 PM

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but the statistics on the left panel don't work... Anyhow, thanks for getting the forums back on line...
[!--coloro:#660000--][span style="color:#660000"][!--/coloro--]The Gene Pool Could Use A Little Chlorine[!--colorc--][/span][!--/colorc--]

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 08:22 PM

[!--quoteo(post=373301:date=May 12 2006, 03:11 PM:name=WhyWindows)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(WhyWindows @ May 12 2006, 03:11 PM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
I'm not sure if you've noticed, but the statistics on the left panel don't work... Anyhow, thanks for getting the forums back on line...
[/quote]

I highly recommend Simple Machines Forum, I use it for my clan site :)

[a href=\"http://www.simplemachines.org/\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.simplemachines.org/[/a]

Converters can be found here: [a href=\"http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=20.0\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=20.0[/a]

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 09:43 PM

So long as you use a publicly available forum system, it can be hacked. The only way to get this as safe as you probably would like it would be to create a completely new forum system. FreaksBB has a catchy ring to it...
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 10:14 PM

[!--quoteo(post=373306:date=May 12 2006, 09:22 PM:name=Prismatic)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Prismatic @ May 12 2006, 09:22 PM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
I highly recommend Simple Machines Forum, I use it for my clan site :)

[a href=\"http://www.simplemachines.org/\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.simplemachines.org/[/a]

Converters can be found here: [a href=\"http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=20.0\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=20.0[/a]
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definitely a good shout, there. i've personally toyed around a little with this one and have found it to be alot cleaner than most out there.
otherwise, it generally depends. obviously the IPB phpfreaks uses is not a 'clean' install is it? surely these custom mods (advertising popups, solved button, etc, etc) take their toll after a while. IPB isnt that bad, surely?

Anyway, welcome back Eric and phpfreaks!

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I say old chap, that is rather amusing!

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Posted 13 May 2006 - 08:51 AM

[!--quoteo(post=373329:date=May 12 2006, 04:43 PM:name=moberemk)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(moberemk @ May 12 2006, 04:43 PM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
So long as you use a publicly available forum system, it can be hacked. The only way to get this as safe as you probably would like it would be to create a completely new forum system. FreaksBB has a catchy ring to it...
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Oeoeoeoeeeoeoe! I'd like that! Can I play too? [img src=\"style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/laugh.gif\" style=\"vertical-align:middle\" emoid=\":laugh:\" border=\"0\" alt=\"laugh.gif\" /]


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Posted 13 May 2006 - 10:10 AM

Welcome back --> "Eric"


-a welcome salute...

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#13 phpfreak

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Posted 14 May 2006 - 02:15 AM

I think that simple machines forum looks very very nice. I'll keep my eyes on it and see what we can do about moving to something like that. The only thing that I don't see which I really like is the "Lo-Fi Version". If that forum has something like that, I'm game for looking into it.

Peace.


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Posted 14 May 2006 - 02:51 PM

Here's another one that I've seen:

[a href=\"http://fudforum.org/forum/\" target=\"_blank\"]FUDforum[/a]

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Posted 14 May 2006 - 04:01 PM

I'll through in my suggestion which is a free forum called [a href=\"http://www.mybboard.com/\" target=\"_blank\"]MyBB[/a], heres what [a href=\"http://community.mybboard.net/\" target=\"_blank\"]mybb looks like[/a]. However a down side to mybb is themeing it as its all done in the AdminCP as all themes/templates are stored in the database, however adding modifications can be relitively simple. Oh and it has PHP BBCode built in to it out of the box (which is good for a programming communutly like this).

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Posted 15 May 2006 - 03:19 AM

I am using PHPBB right now on my website...I am considering a move to something else, but for the most part I have had NO troubles out of phpbb....currently I have been working on my own forum software, just messing around with it, to see what I come up with. Eric I would almost steer clear of the free forum software. It will only get worse than what IPB does, giving that this is such a big community. If you consider making forum software, I would be game for helping out. You know that I will help with anything and everything if you just ask.

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Posted 15 May 2006 - 03:34 AM

I think, and Eric agrees (unless his opinion has changed since [a href=\"http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=62300&view=findpost&p=249489\" target=\"_blank\"]this post[/a]) that it'd be best to stick with something already in existence... I think it would take years to get a forum software to the point of usability, especially with a community as large as this one. I've heard excellent things about vBulletin, and it does have the Lo-Fi feature you like so much, Eric. It's called "Archive" in vBulletin, and does the same thing as Lo-Fi in IPB. And it even has a PDA version!

You can create your own private demo of it at [a href=\"http://www.vbulletin.com/admindemo.php\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.vbulletin.com/admindemo.php[/a]

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Posted 15 May 2006 - 02:15 PM

I've admined on both vBulletin and SMF. I run another community (entropysink.com/forums) that started out with vBulletin and then moved to SMF. One of my other admins there is also on the build team for SMF, so if we wanted something like the "Solved" feature back, I'm pretty damn sure we could get it.

vBulletin was nice, but very cumbersome. They had a lot of good features in the latest releases, but they were also always coming out with patches. SMF has been pretty solid and their upgrade feature is nice. I don't like some of the admin layouts in SMF, but that's probably because I'm still getting used to it. I'm not aware of a "Lo-fi" version in SMF, but it may just be how our board is configured. I also know that they're working on a new release that is supposed to have a pretty hefty amount of new features.

Best of all, SMF is free... vBulletin can be expensive.

If you're going to switch, my personal recommendation is to go with SMF. You can check out my version here:

[a href=\"http://www.entropysink.com/forums\" target=\"_blank\"]http://www.entropysink.com/forums[/a]

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Posted 15 May 2006 - 10:27 PM

[!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]If you consider making forum software, I would be game for helping out.[/quote]

I hope i could help you too guys...
but i think i need more a year to be an expert with PHP.

yeah, i can write now PHP OOP codes.

I want to help but my PHP skill level fluency is not yet ready...
so, i think the only thing that i can contribute right now is to look for BAD members...


thanks.

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