carefree Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Just curious but when is someone elses code classed as yours? - ive heard when you modify it over 50% with your own code then you can claim it as your own. Any thoughts on this?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Someone else's code can be classed as yours when hell freezes over. Regardless of how much 'modification' you make to their code, their original copyright to their code holds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trium918 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Someone else's code can be classed as yours when hell freezes over. Regardless of how much 'modification' you make to their code, their original copyright to their code holds. What if the code was re-written but using the same format? Whos code is it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 What if the code was re-written but using the same format? Whos code is it then? It's time to learn about copyright, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trium918 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Where can I learn about copyrights for PHP? There are a lot of code that is similar. If PHP is open source, how come there are copyrights rules any ways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Copyright is copyright. There are no specific rules for PHP and just because PHP as language is open source, then it doesn't mean that things that are created using PHP is open source as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trium918 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Copyright is copyright. There are no specific rules for PHP and just because PHP as language is open source, then it doesn't mean that things that are created using PHP is open source as well. There are only some many different ways code can be written from what I've seen here on phpfreaks. I could be wrong, but the code that I have seen are similar. How can someone determine what is their code and what isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 I don't think you fully understand, you can't just go copywriting things such as creating a for loop that looks like this: <?php for($i=0; $i<100; $i++) echo "$i<br />"; ?> That would be silly, of course there is only a certain number of ways you can do that, I think the question was more about copywriting a large class, framework or whole project more than anything. Like, downloading SMF (this forum software), changing 50 lines and wanting to copywrite it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 How can someone determine what is their code and what isn't? By licensing it. Download any open source application written in any language and read the license agreement. Just because something is open source does not mean you can do what you like with it, there are rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel_basu Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 remember when you are modifying other's scripts you are te patcher / Bug fixer not the Author of that script. remember teh central idea and the algorithm is still belngs to him. if you compleately changed his code 2 questions arises if you know it so well why did you copied from ?? why didnt you made by your own ?? did you changed everything to prove that your made this script ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 What happens if you just happen to make a PHP script that is very similar or the same as someone else's, without knowing it, and their's is copyrighted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel_basu Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 What happens if you just happen to make a PHP script that is very similar or the same as someone else's, without knowing it, and their's is copyrighted? Its possible only if the code is less than 20 lines. cause variable names function name can not be same cause you are human beings not a robot . there must be some difference. If you are making something by coping someone then you can write the item's description in comment in your code if thats an open source and your matter is copirighted by You but you must mention that you have got teh idea from where. if you copy something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 I know it's unlikely for it to happen, I was asking what would happen if it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel_basu Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 you wouldnt stay as a lawsuit developer anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akitchin Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 I know it's unlikely for it to happen, I was asking what would happen if it did. then that person has the option of suing you, but the onus lies with him to prove that your script is a violation of his copyright. innocent until proven guilty, in most courts of law. generally, anything worth copyrighting is going to be unique enough that someone else doesn't accidentally write the exact same thing - if someone else can just as easily come up with the exact same idea, algorithm, and execution, then what good is the copyright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 you wouldnt stay as a lawsuit developer anymore. What is a lawsuit developer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFilmGod Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 You guys are all wrong. You can't go to court unless the work is submitted to the government and you recieve an official copyright. That is the only way to prove someone stole your copyright. BUT, the work you make does belong to you, and there is a copyright, but you just can't take someone to court (you can but you will fail)... for copying it unless its offically copyrighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 You guys are all wrong. You can't go to court unless the work is submitted to the government and you recieve an official copyright. That is the only way to prove someone stole your copyright. BUT, the work you make does belong to you, and there is a copyright, but you just can't take someone to court (you can but you will fail)... for copying it unless its offically copyrighted. Complete poppycock. Copyright is automatically assigned when a work is first completed. You don't need to register with the government. Doing so merely makes it simpler to prove your case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel_basu Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 You guys are all wrong. You can't go to court unless the work is submitted to the government and you recieve an official copyright. That is the only way to prove someone stole your copyright. BUT, the work you make does belong to you, and there is a copyright, but you just can't take someone to court (you can but you will fail)... for copying it unless its offically copyrighted. There is nothing to register with government. in most of the cases you should to choose the licence which relates your Software. and then that product is copyrighted with you under the terms and conditions of that lincence. [sorry for bad english] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeB Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 <?php $a = $b; ?> // Copyright keeb, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel_basu Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 <?php $a = $b; ?> // Copyright keeb, 2007 Funniest post ever made YOu should say //This semicolon belongs to keeb, 2007 ;//Hey Dont Copy My Semicolon //Copyright keeb, 2007 ?? Instead of that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFilmGod Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 You guys are all wrong. You can't go to court unless the work is submitted to the government and you recieve an official copyright. That is the only way to prove someone stole your copyright. BUT, the work you make does belong to you, and there is a copyright, but you just can't take someone to court (you can but you will fail)... for copying it unless its offically copyrighted. Complete poppycock. Copyright is automatically assigned when a work is first completed. You don't need to register with the government. Doing so merely makes it simpler to prove your case. Yes copyright is obtained when your work is done, but if you don't register it with the government there is no way to prove your case. NO you can't say your computer had a saved copy of the file before it was copied and stolen. Don't be stupid. Its the same with movies and digital music, if it's not registered you have no right to go court. You can't prove jack s**t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azu Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Does putting "Copyrighted 2007 <your name here>" do any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 ... if it's not registered you have no right to go court. Utter rubbish, my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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